Transformers 3 villain is ...

[Vympel]

http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/20 ... d-and.html

With shooting underway on a third movie and plans to debut next summer, Michael Bay and Co. acknowledge missteps with the last one and aim to upgrade the shape-shifting robot franchise with a more coherent story, less goofball humor and a pledge that characters who die will stay dead. It will also be in 3-D.

"I'll take some of the criticism," says Bay, standing at a set built to resemble a dilapidated nuclear reactor. "It was very hard to put (the sequel) together that quickly after the writers' strike (of 2007-08)."

"This one really builds to a final crescendo. It's not three multiple endings," the director says.

Bay calls the second film's villain, The Fallen, "kind of a (expletive) character." The new movie's foe is certain to make fans of the original '80s incarnation smile: Shockwave, the robot cyclops-turned-laser-cannon, who became dictator of their home world of Cybertron after the other Autobots and Decepticons journeyed to Earth.

"One thing we're getting rid of is what I call the dorky comedy," Bay adds. So the twins, the two bumbling, slang-spewing robots? "They're basically gone," he says, though John Turturro returns for comic relief.

The new film features Sam Witwicky (LaBeouf) taking his first tenuous steps into adulthood while remaining a reluctant human ally of Optimus Prime. "Shia has this great line: 'You know, I've saved the world twice, but I can't get a job,' " di Bonaventura says.

"I love Megan and I miss the girl," LaBeouf says, flecked with fake blood and dirt during a break between shooting. "But Sam and Mikaela became one character, and here ... you have discovery again from a new perspective."

Plot details are under wraps, but it delves into the space race between the U.S.S.R. and the USA, suggesting there was a hidden Transformers role in it all that remains one of the planet's most dangerous secrets. "The movie is more of a mystery," Bay says. "It ties in what we know as history growing up as kids with what really happened."

While Optimus Prime, Megatron and even Sam all have died and been resurrected, di Bonaventura says this film will have no do-overs: Die, and that's it.

Bay hints that there may be a lot of that. "As a trilogy, it really ends," he says. "It could be rebooted again, but I think it has a really killer ending."

So, less goofy humor, though they're still having Agent Simmons, and the new villain is Shockwave. Michael Bay didn't like the Fallen, and the Twins are 'basically' gone, which probably means they'll be blown up in the opening battle

(hopes for Megatron & Optimus vs Shockwave fight)

[Zor]

Well this puts him above Uwe Boll at least. Also i am glad to see they gut out the bullshit comedy of Transformers II, even though i did not mind the stuff in the first film so much.

Zor

[Anguirus]

Shockwave. Damn right.

[Stark]

Will his design be better than the War for Cybertron Shockwave? Seems unlikely.

[Vympel]

Will his design be better than the War for Cybertron Shockwave? Seems unlikely.

War for Cybertron Shockwave is so awesome that I may well pre-order the game just so I can have him as a multiplayer character, even though I don't play multiplayer

If they can get the colour scheme (recognizeably purple) and the head (single light) right, it should be fine.

Of course, some people despise the Bayverse designs so I'm suer there'll be a bad reaction when he is revealed.

[Vympel]

Oh, forgot:-

http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/20 ... rical.html

[Jeremy]

Is a live action Unicron too much to ask for?

[Stofsk]

who is shockwave

[Stark]

Is a live action Unicron too much to ask for?

Everyone has been sick of Unicron for about a decade.

Stofsk, this is Shockwave



He is kinda a more pimpin Megatron.

[Bedlam]

who is shockwave

Shockwave is a powerful Decepticon, his defining trait is his highly logical mind.

In the original Cartoons he was very loyal to Megatron and was left behind on Cyberton to keep control of it during the 4 million years the majority of the transformers were in statis. In the original comics series he was more or a rival to Megatron who he overthrew several times and considered himself the more 'logical' choice for leader. There have almost certainly been more version in other series but I dont know much about them.

He transformed into a giant flying gun in the original Cannon.

It sounds like the film version is going to have bits from both, being left on Cyberton and being a rival to megatron. Althouhg I thought they said Cyberton had been destroyed in the first film, I guess it will be retconed in some way to mean not quite destroyed or inhostitable.

[Oskuro]

Why do I get this feeling of Bay backpedaling like a bitch after reactions to T:RotF?

I was hoping for Unicron, if only because to see if they could pull out an interesting planet-sized villian, and more importantly, resolve the issue in a non-stupid fashion (unlike F4:Silver Surfer, where Galactus did look interesting, but was defeated by a character shield overload).
But Shockwave is good too, done properly he can be interesting (please note I have very scarce knowledge of Transformers characters, I only know how shockwave looks, but he is part of my Quake 3 player model collection, so there).

[Stofsk]

who is shockwave

Shockwave is a powerful Decepticon, his defining trait is his highly logical mind.

I don't know if you were being ironic or tongue-in-cheek, I just find it hilarious that a villain is dangerous not because of whatever superpower he has or the ability to turn into a giant gun (lol) but his logical mind.

[Oskuro]

Did you ever watch the cartoons? Any character with a tiny shred of logic would've been godlike.

[Stofsk]

I watched it when I was a kid but it was never a huge thing for me. I was more into Dino Riders and TMNT.

[Imperial Overlord]

It would be very, very hard to write a story featuring Unicron that wouldn't blow. Shockwave, on the other hand, rocks. He might even make a third Transformers movie watchable.

[Srelex]

Well, I really can't expect this film to be lower than TF2, and hopefully Bay will cut down on Shia a bit (he was tolerable in the first film, but in the second...well, the least Bay could do was keep the camera still in his presence)

[Vympel]

Why do I get this feeling of Bay backpedaling like a bitch after reactions to T:RotF?

I don't know, because the only place he backpedaled to was the bank. On a bike made of gold. Whilst burning money that had gotten dirty along the way.

Given the script to TF2 was basically a nothing - and it shows - its amazing how much money it made. And this is from me, someone who is totally unapologetic about how much he likes the movie.

Maybe TF3, given it will have more writing time and less goofyness, will be one of the first threequels to be better than the sequel?

[Oskuro]

Yeah, I know he went to the bank laughing, but since there was a lot of backlash, I guess he wants to keep his profits high by claiming he won't repeat the mistakes from the previous movie.

The thing I find funny, and feels like backpedaling, is how perfect the movie was in his eyes at release, yet now there are things he regrets. But then again, this is the usual Hollywood MO. I swear at times the actors seem to struggle when they have to do one of those "this movie I just did is awesome" interviews yet they know it sucked balls.

As for the twins, couldn't we get a reincarnation of Jazz voiced by Samuel L. Jackson to bitchslap them and throw them into the Laurentian abyss?

Wonder if wheelie will go off with Mikaela wherever she goes. The thing is probably embedded to her leg by now.

[Rye]

Why do I get this feeling of Bay backpedaling like a bitch after reactions to T:RotF?

I don't know why you're so hostile to someone realising they've made a pants movie, even if it was a success, and endeavouring to make a better one. If anything, admitting you're wrong and wanting to do better is a good thing for someone like Bay who is no doubt surrounded by yes men and Hollywood phonies all the time. Why are you rolling your eyes?

I was hoping for Unicron, if only because to see if they could pull out an interesting planet-sized villian, and more importantly, resolve the issue in a non-stupid fashion (unlike F4:Silver Surfer, where Galactus did look interesting, but was defeated by a character shield overload).
But Shockwave is good too, done properly he can be interesting (please note I have very scarce knowledge of Transformers characters, I only know how shockwave looks, but he is part of my Quake 3 player model collection, so there).

Shockwave seems a lot more sensible as a villain than a world eating giant. The first movie worked in large part because it went by the book and had memorable, funny characters that interacted well. The second went to cartoon one-upmanship and childish humour and sucked.

[Oskuro]

I'm not really hostile towards Bay, despite how fashionable it seems to be. I consider him rather harmless, and his movies, even if idiotic, tend to be fun to watch.

I'm poking fun mostly at the fan appeasing nature of these comments. I really doubt this has been a learning episode for Mr.Bay, not because of his character, but because his attitude is in line with the usual Hollywood MO. It's just funny to have another example of this.

And let's face it, Michael Bay is so over the top at times he is fun to make fun of.

[Ghost Rider]

Now the real question is will be the giant 20 m purple death gun!

Either way, it's an interesting turn just because the early reports of Unicron but him going to a more grounded villain versus "ONLY ZEE MATRIX FTW!!!" villainy.

[Oskuro]

One-eyed giant purple death gun.

Oh, the puns, they will be glorious.

[Ghost Rider]

One-eyed giant purple death gun.

Oh, the puns, they will be glorious.

Which I never understood why they went with the notion. His toy transforms perfectly into his arms becoming the barrel...yet the cartoons and comics ALWAYS use his head somehow extends to become the an eyeball into a motherfucking huge barrel.

So many toys I understand why they didn't use but Shockwave was the exception and people went the dumber route.

[Drooling Iguana]

who is shockwave

Be enlightened.

[Coalition]

Shockwave would be the guy who plans to win strategically, while fighting tactically to minimize an opponent's options. Figure a chess master, or possibly Go. What I'd like to see (and have said it before), is for Shouckwave to be Megatron's second in command during the fights, organization, etc. During a few battles, we see Shockwave diverting himself at a point to install a hack into the internet, then shooting something and ripping a building in half with the shot.

At the end of the movie, it reveals that Shockwave embezzled funds, swapped cargo routings for industrial machinery and high-tech materials, hired terrorists to plant bombs, and redirected a cargo ship or two. The cargo ship(s) gets holes blown up, it sinks (with its cargo of robotics and materials) and the Decepticons get a new base.

One stunt for him to do while hunting humans on a Decepticon base would be to design drones to go after them (well-designed, and funneling the humans into his trap), and he proceeds to interrogate them. He puts them in a chamber that can sense if they tell the truth, and shocks them if they lie, repeat data, or say nothing for too long. He then leaves the room, as the basic program will interrogate them with a minimum of oversight.

However, the girl has kept up on all the latest gossip, and spends the next several hours filling the program's database with trivia about all her friends in school, until the Autobots rescue them. She still has more to talk about, but Sam tells her to save it for the next time.

Essentially you have to be creative and perform random stunts to get around him, because you cannot outthink him. Those random stunts are not guaranteed to work though, you will take damage/losses while doing so, and he is steadily building up the Decepticon capabilities even if you win.

Just don't give him the same trigger his toy robot form had.