SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread I

[loomer]

Chalk another 'aggressive humans' strike to the Arayna. When they first settled in Outlander space there was another Major Commission, the Immin. They were a full third of the Outlander's population, but once the Arayna (they were adopted as a client state by the Immin, as one of the Isolationist lesser Commission's members.) learnt more about the structure of the region, the technology used by the others, and a few handy genetic engineering tricks, they launched an attack and now, well, the results speak for themselves. They killed a good ~30% of the Outlanders total and forced the Immin down to the Lesser Commissions.

They're still recovering from that, to a degree. The overall population has risen above the highest enjoyed before the coup, but the balance of power shifted away from the semi-tyranny imposed by the Immin to where it is now.

[Coyote]

Frankly I think Black Market should indicate that it's government-sanctioned (or elite-sanctioned) Black Market Trade to get desired commodities, not simply that the only existing trade between the two states is "Black Market" stuff.

Since "government sanctioned" would imply a level of involvement or corruption that might be undesireable, would merely "not policed/enforced" be allowable?

[Simon_Jester]

Chalk another 'aggressive humans' strike to the Arayna. When they first settled in Outlander space there was another Major Commission, the Immin. They were a full third of the Outlander's population, but once the Arayna (they were adopted as a client state by the Immin, as one of the Isolationist lesser Commission's members.) learnt more about the structure of the region, the technology used by the others, and a few handy genetic engineering tricks, they launched an attack and now, well, the results speak for themselves. They killed a good ~30% of the Outlanders total and forced the Immin down to the Lesser Commissions.

They're still recovering from that, to a degree. The overall population has risen above the highest enjoyed before the coup, but the balance of power shifted away from the semi-tyranny imposed by the Immin to where it is now.

Perhaps I am confused. Who belongs to which species here? I can't seem to find the Outlander Commissions' backstory on the wiki.

[Coyote]

Xenociders can't expect friendly relations in a thousand years from now. What they can expect, however, is that a coalition of the willing will form - perhaps made of non-human races - which shall contain the xenociders in their corner of the Galaxy. Rest assured we'll give weapons to the 'foul xenos'.

Interesting-- the Commune is relatively close to the Central Alliance, and while I can see the Commune being suspicious of us for being an unknown factor, plus a strong capitalist streak, we're also an inter-species alliance with humans and various types of 'xenos' intermixed on nearly all levels. Even led, currently, by a non-human.

[loomer]

Chalk another 'aggressive humans' strike to the Arayna. When they first settled in Outlander space there was another Major Commission, the Immin. They were a full third of the Outlander's population, but once the Arayna (they were adopted as a client state by the Immin, as one of the Isolationist lesser Commission's members.) learnt more about the structure of the region, the technology used by the others, and a few handy genetic engineering tricks, they launched an attack and now, well, the results speak for themselves. They killed a good ~30% of the Outlanders total and forced the Immin down to the Lesser Commissions.

They're still recovering from that, to a degree. The overall population has risen above the highest enjoyed before the coup, but the balance of power shifted away from the semi-tyranny imposed by the Immin to where it is now.

Perhaps I am confused. Who belongs to which species here? I can't seem to find the Outlander Commissions' backstory on the wiki.

The Arayna are humans - more specifically, they're a bunch of expatriates from a variety of Middle Eastern countries who left Earth on pre-Heim generational ships and thought they'd be completely alone when they got where they were going. They weren't, and then man started spreading through the universe FTL and it was a great big kick in the balls for them because, you know - they wasted a couple of centuries and didn't achieve their goals.

The Immin were a major alien species in the region when they arrived but are now a minor species (From ~35% of the total population down to ~4%.). I really gotta finish writing up my wiki, huh?

[DarthShady]

Totally, man. It's not like you killed her or anything! She's alive, kicking, full of state secrets and actively advacing the Karlack cause...oh, wait

Things are not always black and white, as they may appear.

I am so looking forward to an encounter between your mechanical Arnold and one of my Aspects.

Well hey. You defiled her soul! Making a mockery of all things human.

And not to mention, we haven't had a glorious war for a while :p. Time for another?

Humans are so overrated, you are a disease, a cancer of this Galaxy. You're a plague and we are the cure.

Note: The above is not the official Karlack approach to diplomacy.

The game hasn't started yet Bro, when it does - The Swarm will come.

[Steve]

Chalk another 'aggressive humans' strike to the Arayna. When they first settled in Outlander space there was another Major Commission, the Immin. They were a full third of the Outlander's population, but once the Arayna (they were adopted as a client state by the Immin, as one of the Isolationist lesser Commission's members.) learnt more about the structure of the region, the technology used by the others, and a few handy genetic engineering tricks, they launched an attack and now, well, the results speak for themselves. They killed a good ~30% of the Outlanders total and forced the Immin down to the Lesser Commissions.

They're still recovering from that, to a degree. The overall population has risen above the highest enjoyed before the coup, but the balance of power shifted away from the semi-tyranny imposed by the Immin to where it is now.

Perhaps I am confused. Who belongs to which species here? I can't seem to find the Outlander Commissions' backstory on the wiki.

The Arayna are humans - more specifically, they're a bunch of expatriates from a variety of Middle Eastern countries who left Earth on pre-Heim generational ships and thought they'd be completely alone when they got where they were going. They weren't, and then man started spreading through the universe FTL and it was a great big kick in the balls for them because, you know - they wasted a couple of centuries and didn't achieve their goals.

The Immin were a major alien species in the region when they arrived but are now a minor species (From ~35% of the total population down to ~4%.). I really gotta finish writing up my wiki, huh?

Where was their initial destination? One of the systems now in the UN? It took a century just for Earth to Nova Terra travel by non-FTL drives; no way your ship would get from Earth to the current Commissions sectors in a mere 200 years.

[Setzer]

Well, Chiron doesn't have any xenocide in its history. We did have a bloody rebellion from an Imperialistic regime that grew into a civil war. The Klee Shay Empire used an atomic purging campaign in an unsuccessful attempt to break the newly formed sovereignty. It got so bad the UN intervened and crushed the Imperial government, as Steve was kind enough to agree to. So while I don't have mass butchery of aliens on my record, I can wage bloody wars quite well without them.

[Coyote]

Okay, I've started a bunch of my Wiki entries. The Army and Navy pages are mega-ghetto right now (in fact the Army page is just a few pictures) but I'll expand them as time permits. But point value for Navy ships is given.

[RogueIce]

Even led, currently, by a non-human.

An anthromorphic coyote?

As for the Shinra Republic and nonhumans, we've done all right by them. But really, how can you hate Moogles?

[Coyote]

Even led, currently, by a non-human.

An anthromorphic coyote?

As for the Shinra Republic and nonhumans, we've done all right by them. But really, how can you hate Moogles?

An alien. I don't have "furries" in my 'verse, although there are aliens that are covered in fur/hair, like Chewbacca... and not based on any Terrestrial critters.

[PeZook]

I am so looking forward to an encounter between your mechanical Arnold and one of my Aspects.

Unit 7, engaging the Karlack in diplomacy

[DarthShady]

Now that, is my kind of diplomacy.

[Akhlut]

PeZook, can we expect witty one-liners from Unit 7?

For instance, would he use a giant mechanical buzzsaw to cut apart Karlack diplomats and report back to the Collectors that "sorry, the negotiations were cut short"?

[Ryan Thunder]

Do you think it'll be a problem if I put smaller versions of some stuff from DeviantArt on the wiki? The originals are kind of large.

[Fingolfin_Noldor]

I am so looking forward to an encounter between your mechanical Arnold and one of my Aspects.

Unit 7, engaging the Karlack in diplomacy

The Imperium's response.

[Ryan Thunder]

I'm so going to tip one of those at some point. It simply must be done.

[Fingolfin_Noldor]

I'm so going to tip one of those at some point. It simply must be done.

Well, I have 10 Titan Legions, 200 points each. About ... 16 or more Titans each...

[PeZook]

PeZook, can we expect witty one-liners from Unit 7?

For instance, would he use a giant mechanical buzzsaw to cut apart Karlack diplomats and report back to the Collectors that "sorry, the negotiations were cut short"?

Why exactly do you think I used Arnold for him?

The Imperium's response.

Of course he's going to throw one-liners around

I must admit, your diplomacy is bigger than ours.

We should engage the Karlack in diplomacy together!

[Simon_Jester]

Question: is there more than one Unit 7? I see no reason why there wouldn't be...

[Siege]

On the other hand you'd expect 'Unit 7', to be the only Unit 7. Why would he be designated 'seven' if there's more than one of him?

[Akhlut]

PeZook, can we expect witty one-liners from Unit 7?

For instance, would he use a giant mechanical buzzsaw to cut apart Karlack diplomats and report back to the Collectors that "sorry, the negotiations were cut short"?

Why exactly do you think I used Arnold for him?

Excellent. I'm looking forward to seeing more of Unit 7 around.

Just not in my section of space.

[Akhlut]

On the other hand you'd expect 'Unit 7', to be the only Unit 7. Why would he be designated 'seven' if there's more than one of him?

Why is it a Mazda 6, then? Unit 7 could just be a model with Ahnold features ("The Unit 7 comes with witty one-liners, cigars, and the largest caliber guns available!").

[Fingolfin_Noldor]

I must admit, your diplomacy is bigger than ours.

We should engage the Karlack in diplomacy together!

We always bring the biggest gun to the table.

[Simon_Jester]

General question, mostly directed at Steve and Oskuro:
Given the basic astrography, I'd expect that there's a healthy scattering of ork worlds and pirate bases in the Badlands. Also minor human settlements (insofar as the orks don't conquer and/or eat them). Seem reasonable?

On the other hand you'd expect 'Unit 7', to be the only Unit 7. Why would he be designated 'seven' if there's more than one of him?

Maskirovka. That's what they want you to think.

I must admit, your diplomacy is bigger than ours.
We should engage the Karlack in diplomacy together!

We always bring the biggest gun to the table.

Ha! That's what you think...

[returns to blueprints for next generation ion cannon carrier]