Thanks for the offer, dude.White Haven wrote:Hit me up in-game if you need anything, I can throw you some startup cash or what-have-you if you need. Andrew Riviera, Miranda Cho, or Oddbox, depending on who I'm online as.
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Thanks for the offer, dude.White Haven wrote:Hit me up in-game if you need anything, I can throw you some startup cash or what-have-you if you need. Andrew Riviera, Miranda Cho, or Oddbox, depending on who I'm online as.
No support, opportunities, participation, communicty, etc. You have to win the lottery to be involved!June 29th 2010 wrote: between their empire and the rest of New Eden. When random wormholes through space began spawning after the Seylinn disaster, none appeared to connect to Jove space. This led players to believe that the Jove Directorate possessed some form of control over wormhole formation, able to at least block it from occurring in their systems.
Skip past the cut to read the startling revelations recently made in this epic storyline arc.
Getting a foot in the door
The possibility loomed that the Sansha fleet appearing to be stationed in 3-CE1R may not have been a mistake. Sansha incursions into high security space proved without a doubt that they had somehow mastered the ability to manipulate wormholes. Not only could they make the wormholes appear over their target planets with pin-point accuracy, they were also able to block non-Sansha pilots from entering the hole and could collapse it at will.
Speculation ran wild within the roleplaying community. Perhaps Sansha's Nation, possessing impressive knowledge of cybernetic integration, had managed to up-link with a Sleeper database and learn the secret to controlling wormholes. Worse yet, if they had managed to break through whatever defenses were keeping wormholes from forming within Jove space, they may have succeeded where the Amarr failed so long ago. Sansha's Nation may have gained a foothold in Jove territory.
Efforts to locate an entrance to the Sansha's base systems have been underway since the attacks began. Recently, a lone pilot managed to get a probe through one of the Sansha wormholes. The probe relayed a single image of the Sansha forces and the wormhole's target system before being obliterated. Upon posting the image on the forums, the EVE roleplaying community's worst fears were realise
This happened to you because you are stupid. Five minutes of research would have taught you that putting your last penny into one ship and then taking it into lowsec was a terrible idea. I can't figure out how you even managed to go that broke. I've never heard of anyone who's so bankrupt he can't even afford a CSPA charge.It's definitionally true that I got ruined in EvE, see also the bit wherein I had to beg change to send an EvEmail.
In this thread, Shadowdragon defines "roleplaying" to exclude roleplaying as a jerk. That's awful convenient. Maybe you'd be okay with people being pirates if they were friendly pirates.Not if's telling the GM "lol, I'm so totally gonna shiv the idiot paladin in the back and take his holy sword so I can shit on it." That's not roleplaying, that's fuckbaggery.
It's funny, I was just thinking how much you sound like the worst of the whining carebears on the Eve-O forums (the ones who would obviously be happier playing WoW). Of course, all the other carebears use their brains and tank their haulers, don't autopilot with valuable cargo, and don't put their entire net worth in one cargo hold. Generally, those carebears laugh at the whiners just as much as the pirates do.I have a feeling those carebears would stop feeling that way if it was their hauler that got popped by a sacrificial battleship and got all their shit stolen.
LOL. I can't believe I'm actually defending CVA here, but no, actually, they actually let neutrals fly in their space and dock in their stations--even mine and rat. They only shot you if you were a known pirate or had shot at them in the past.I never said that wasn't RPing, though it sounds more like they were griefing assholes (and not terribly effective griefing assholes) who liked to spiel excuses for their griefing.
So in ShadowDragon world, games have no emotional range? What's the fucking point of playing a game you can't lose? Never mind your flat assertion that a game that allows you to ruin yourself fails at being fun. If it's not your thing, fine, but plenty of people love the risk--and as long as you're not a moron, the risk is manageable anyway.A game is supposed to be fun. If it ever puts you in a situation where the fun stops and the suck begins, the game is failing at being fun. And that includes allowing you to ruin yourself. Yes, I do bloody well blame EvE for that.
'I have no idea how PVP works in EVE'.PvP in EvE, almost all of the time, is a fucking mugging wherein one hapless moron gets blown up for no good reason other than some assholes decided to inflate their killcount. The rest of the time it's ridiculous lag-fests that people without really stable and fast broadband connections will just get slaughtered in.'I have no idea how PVP works in EVE'.
And because of this, there's no RP, and no RP support. Riiiight.And that's kind of the point - those kinds of assholes can be intent on blowing you up and there's nothing you can do unless you're somehow a much better PvPer than he is.
"Ouch. He saw through my red herring. Oh, I know! I'll just ignore and say he doesn't know what he's talking about!"You have no idea what roleplaying is; you yourself have said you don't roleplay. Kindly refrain from pretending you know what the fuck you're talking about.
If he does it in character, he's still playing a role. Therefore, roleplaying.Not if's telling the GM "lol, I'm so totally gonna shiv the idiot paladin in the back and take his holy sword so I can shit on it." That's not roleplaying, that's fuckbaggery.
And again, why are most of your finances tied up in one ship? The game isn't going to protect you from being an idiot, and the playerbase wants it like this.And if he destroyed the vast majority of your finances in one popping, it probably doesn't matter to him that CONCORD just fucked his shit up royal.
Yeah, that's the look I had reading your post.Same shit, diffent pile. I was really hoping for more substance than that.
If the corp gets tired of mission running or whatever, they can all sit back and do a relaxing mining op shooting the shit in corp or local or whatever.
Oh wait! They need a space tavern or a yacht to do that!![]()
So.... not the kind of RP you're into. Check."Interesting" doesn't interest me, because it typically involves me getting the works.
It's a hell of a lot more epic than anything I ever fucking saw in EvE.
Personal tastes. I actually tend to enjoy the background story more than the one in WoW. And I like the fact that they don't force feed you it.EvE's backstory is a thin veneer of wordspam over an excuse to go and grief-PK someone for flying the wrong kind of ship/being from the wrong part of space.
And in that cantina.... You're still using the fucking chat.And how, exactly, can you do that in EvE? Oh right, you can't except by using a group chat and imagining that cantina, because CCP won't let you actually get out of the starship and go to the cantina.
Conversely, you're able to suspend Disbelief about Lord Whogivesashit going to the spirit healer to explain why he's never gone for good, but not being able to leave your pod just completely breaks it for you.And now you've got the goalposts mounted on rails! Let's recap: when it's my argument that the "reality" of the game can be bent for RP purposes (suspending disbelief about the number of times you may have done something mechanically in order to talk about it as if it was some heroic epic eed that you did once,) then it gets mocked; but when it's your argument, suddenly disbelief gets suspended, locked in a pod and ejected out the nearest airlock so you can use EvE as a very, very expensive text-based chat client for imagining the roleplaying.
Oh trust me, we're all starting to get an idea.You have no idea what kind of RP I'm into.
Then why even fucking use it to support your point? Especially since there's obviously more and bigger reasons for the difference in the playerbase.I didn't say "all", moron.
Aaaand.... you'd be wrong. What, you think none of the people arguing with you ever lost a ship to a jerk? It's happened to all of us. We just never whinged about it. Because that's the game we signed up for.I have a feeling those carebears would stop feeling that way if it was their hauler that got popped by a sacrificial battleship and got all their shit stolen.
Fair point. I misspoke.I never said there was no RPing in EvE,
Okay, out of curiousity, what is RP support to you. Besides providing taverns and the ability to change you're wardrobe?I said there was no RP support from CCP. Fine, I'll amend it to there being very damn little RP supportand most of it based on finding new ways to get your name on the frontpage by either fucking up royal or capitalizing on someone's fucking up royal.
Yeah, but that's all stuff done by "griefers" so it doesn't count.charlemagne wrote:What I don't get is how it's not "rp support" that you (oh sorry, of course not you alone, but you and a gang of friends, like, what MMOs are made for) can make an actual difference in the political landscape of the game. No other MMO I know of let's you do that.
And the devs actually comment on wars the players fight and on many other developments in the game world by making them "official news" - within the game world (as I said, that news column from the website can be read ingame at every billboard).
That's a whole lot deeper than "Guild X cleared Raid Y for the first time".
Oh yeah, and there's constantly other new stuff. New chronicles, event-related news reports, and all of that is written in character.
protip; stay in hisecCUNTFACE wrote:And that's kind of the point - those kinds of assholes can be intent on blowing you up and there's nothing you can do unless you're somehow a much better PvPer than he is.
This, more or less. Breaking the 1,000,000 mark took me about a month of play-time, then someone from my corp at-the-time tossed me another million like it was pocket change. That was kind of crushing, to be honest.SilverWingedSeraph wrote:I have to ask, did it used to be a lot harder to gain ISK and acquire ships than it is now? I've been playing for less than a day, and haven't spent even a large portion of my day on it, and I have around 2 million ISK and six frigates, accumulated all myself, without any handouts from other players. Wait, no, five frigates. I blew up my starting one because I didn't like seeing that horrible, dinky little thing every time I went to change ships. I mean, I could easily replace my Punisher if it got destroyed. Not that I would need to, since I already have a back-up Punisher ready for just such an occurrence, but... yeah, replacing Frigates at least is fairly easy. I don't understand ShadowDragon's complaints at all, unless he just aimlessly wandered off into 0.0 sec... several times...![]()
I've found much of my enjoyment in EVE so far has come from having friends to play it with. I'm thinking I might join a corp at some stage, but for now I'm not having any major difficulty just soloing things and occasionally chilling with some friends.
I am an artist, metaphorical mind-fucks are my medium.CaptainChewbacca wrote:Dude...
Way to overwork a metaphor Shadow. I feel really creeped out now.
Like I said: my corp kept hammering home learning all the learning skills to Rating 5, so I had damn-near newbie level stuff. I wasn't confident enough to go running missions alone (Gallente, but I had a taste for missile weapons and drones, so that made my builds fairly poor) so I basically floated around asteroid fields, harvesting cheapass rock, chatting, and occasionally getting a chance to fit the launchers and load the bay and go run some fairly easy missions with a mate or two.Nephtys wrote:A /month/?! Holy shit. That's bloody well near impossible. Back when I played (Like STRAK's time), it took me about a day. How the heck did that happen? And yeah, if you think a million is a lot, that's going to be crushing when most players have billion(s).
A hundred kay? Goddamn. I remember it being more like 10-20K. I really have been away from this a long time - that, or I never got into Level 2s and I'm remembering level 1s.Hell. Each level 2 mission pays out almost 100k and can be done in a 50k frigate. Running 10 of those doesn't even take that long.
I am an artist, metaphorical mind-fucks are my medium.CaptainChewbacca wrote:Dude...
Way to overwork a metaphor Shadow. I feel really creeped out now.
I am an artist, metaphorical mind-fucks are my medium.CaptainChewbacca wrote:Dude...
Way to overwork a metaphor Shadow. I feel really creeped out now.
Wait, you're saying you do things that aren't pants on head retarded? I'm not entirely sure that I believe you...ShadowDragon8685 wrote:When it comes to playing MMORPGs, my performance tends to defy the bell curve by winding up on the bottom of either slope; my moments of brilliance are matched by the moments of sheer, luna-flying-high pants-on-head retardedness.
If it's remotely possible to fuck something up more horribly than anyone thought was possible, eventually I will pull it off - like the time I used that Paladin spell that put the healer a three-minute no-harm bubble, killing myself in the process and causing a complete wipe in the middle of a battle that was until then a huge bowl of no-problem. I'm also capable of pulling out the occasional godlike performance that makes those who witness it go "wtf did you put on your wheaties this morning," like the times when the main healer would go down and I (a Retribution Paladin) managed to off-heal the MT well enough to win the fight and Redeem the main healer.
Man... All of this is making me want to try EvE Online again. Maybe it's not quite so horrible anymore.
Ah, yes, the Divine Intervention spell. That caused me quite a few embarrassing times...ShadowDragon8685 wrote:If it's remotely possible to fuck something up more horribly than anyone thought was possible, eventually I will pull it off - like the time I used that Paladin spell that put the healer a three-minute no-harm bubble, killing myself in the process and causing a complete wipe in the middle of a battle that was until then a huge bowl of no-problem.