So much for the argument about the 'title' of marriage.Hawaii governor vetoes same-sex civil unions bill
HONOLULU – Hawaii's governor ended months of speculation by vetoing contentious civil unions legislation that would have granted gay, lesbian and opposite-sex couples the same rights and benefits that the state provides to married couples.
Republican Gov. Linda Lingle's action on Tuesday came on the final day she had to either sign or veto the bill, which was approved by the Legislature in late April.
The measure would have made Hawaii one of six states that essentially grant the rights of marriage to same-sex couples without authorizing marriage itself. Five other states and the District of Columbia permit same-sex marriage.
Lingle said voters should decide the fate of civil unions, not politicians.
"The subject of this legislation has touched the hearts and minds of our citizens as no other social issue of our day," she said. "It would be a mistake to allow a decision of this magnitude to be made by one individual or a small group of elected officials."
For weeks, Lingle heard emotional statements from both supporters and opponents of the bill. On Tuesday, she invited leaders from both sides to her standing-room only news conference.
Opponents of the measure, including many religious groups, erupted in cheers and hugs when the announcement was made.
"What she did was very just, and I'm very happy about it," said Jay Amina, 50, of Waianae. "It sends a good message throughout the state of Hawaii — that our people here on the islands are standing for traditional marriage."
Supporters of civil unions shouted, "We'll keep fighting!" and "Let's go!" The group of about 100 joined in singing "We Shall Overcome."
"We had hoped the governor would do the right thing for civil rights and equality," Lee Yarbrough of Honolulu said while standing arm-in-arm with his partner. "This battle is far from over."
The Aloha State has been a battleground in the gay rights movement since the early 1990s. A 1993 Hawaii Supreme Court ruling nearly made Hawaii the first state to legalize same-sex marriage before voters overwhelmingly approved the nation's first "defense of marriage" constitutional amendment in 1998.
The measure gave the Legislature the power to reserve marriage to opposite-sex couples. Lawmakers responded by enacting a law banning gay marriage in Hawaii but left the door open for civil unions.
Last year, civil unions easily passed the House but stalled in the state Senate. When legislators reconvened in January, it was passed in the Senate but shelved by House leaders until the final day of the legislative session.
About 60 percent of the more than 34,000 letters, telephone calls, e-mails and other communications from the public to the governor asked her to veto the measure, the governor's aides said late last week.
Lingle's decision will be the last development on the proposal this year. State House leaders had decided not to try to override any of her vetoes.
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GASP! What is this? The high hand of government overturning the "Will of the people"? What an outrage! I demand that this Liberal big government governor be voted out of office! We cannot stand for good honest Americans to have their will stamped on by Activist Libe--
What? She was a Republican Governor?
OH! Thats ok then...
What? She was a Republican Governor?
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Crossroads Inc. wrote:GASP! What is this? The high hand of government overturning the "Will of the people"? What an outrage! I demand that this Liberal big government governor be voted out of office! We cannot stand for good honest Americans to have their will stamped on by Activist Libe--
What? She was a Republican Governor?
OH! Thats ok then...
"The subject of this legislation has touched the hearts and minds of our citizens as no other social issue of our day," she said. "It would be a mistake to allow a decision of this magnitude to be made by one individual or a small group of elected officials."
"What she did was very just, and I'm very happy about it," said Jay Amina, 50, of Waianae. "It sends a good message throughout the state of Hawaii — that our people here on the islands are standing for traditional marriage."
Biiiiiiitch... trying to swing moderates with the appearance of illegitimacy is an old trick. Pretty sure operation rainbow learned from California and will be campaigning heavily leading up to any referendum. i love when Republicans go through the motions of being open minded and then "Decide" that the right thing tto do is go with their original opinion.
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Wait... hold on. Her argument is that the legislature can't be trusted to make laws? Of course a small group of elected officials are supposed to make these decisions! That's what they are elected to do, because they are a legislature. This boils down to her declaring the issue to be above the law, which officially makes her dumb."The subject of this legislation has touched the hearts and minds of our citizens as no other social issue of our day," she said. "It would be a mistake to allow a decision of this magnitude to be made by one individual or a small group of elected officials."
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It sends a good message throughout the state of Hawaii
Which is a state to begin with, and was US territory before that because of the use of force and guile to bring it into the union...
— that our people
Most of whom were brought in in one way or another, to settle said seized territory at the expense of the locals...
here on the islands are standing for traditional marriage
...obviously meaning an alien tradition, brought in from the mainland.
Nice.
Which is a state to begin with, and was US territory before that because of the use of force and guile to bring it into the union...
— that our people
Most of whom were brought in in one way or another, to settle said seized territory at the expense of the locals...
here on the islands are standing for traditional marriage
...obviously meaning an alien tradition, brought in from the mainland.
Nice.
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Well its where "hello" means "goodbye" and "social issues" mean "Fuck youKanastrous wrote:It sends a good message throughout the state of Hawaii
Which is a state to begin with, and was US territory before that because of the use of force and guile to bring it into the union...
— that our people
Most of whom were brought in in one way or another, to settle said seized territory at the expense of the locals...
here on the islands are standing for traditional marriage
...obviously meaning an alien tradition, brought in from the mainland.
Nice.
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By the way was there a memo to start redefining legislation that addresses discriminatory practices as "Social issues" instead of a fricking elected officials JOB to ADDRESS? These "Social Issues" weren't so abstract and hypothetical when DOMA was being passed, it was all about our "Future" and "Values as a country" etc etc..."The subject of this legislation has touched the hearts and minds of our citizens as no other social issue of our day," she said.
Kind of plays into all that "Teh Government Has No Legal Authority Bekuz of the Declaration of independence Constitution didn't give it to it" crap Now anyone pointing out this "Social issue" is a necessary point of anti discrimination clarification sounds like they are about to pull out a 22,000 page bill to support their case into which can be hidden all kinds of communist propaganda.
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It gets even better as there's a good probability she's a closeted lesbian. There is no hate like self-hate.Pint0 Xtreme wrote:And for the kicker: She's a two-time divorcée.
Hardly unexpected, but still disappointing. Her argument that this should be an issue for “the people” is absolute bunk in Hawaii especially as in 1998 the legislature was given the power by a constitutional amendment passed by popular referendum to reserve marriage to opposite couples. The legislature later passed a law using that authority to ban same-sex marriage.
In other words, the people said “We want you to decide what marriage means,” and now the governor is saying, “We must let the people tell us what marriage means.”