OVEG - Macrocosm
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OVEG - Macrocosm
Ha! I am the one to post it this week!
Chuck puts himself through another terrible Voyager episode:
Chuck puts himself through another terrible Voyager episode:
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And we will be without OVEG for a month. And my Birthday month at that.
That said, i am supprised Chuck did not give Neelix at least a little slack for being out stupided by the Tak Tak.
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The Doctor is a computer program with access to the ship's database, and yet he needs to be given directions.
Mr. Harley: Your impatience is quite understandable.
Klaatu: I'm impatient with stupidity. My people have learned to live without it.
Mr. Harley: I'm afraid my people haven't. I'm very sorry... I wish it were otherwise.
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Klaatu: I'm impatient with stupidity. My people have learned to live without it.
Mr. Harley: I'm afraid my people haven't. I'm very sorry... I wish it were otherwise.
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If I cannot satisfy the one, I will indulge the other." – Frankenstein's Creature on the glacier[/size]
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Yeah, just another brick in the wall of stupidity that this episode presents. Like always, excellent mockery from Chuck.Temujin wrote:The Doctor is a computer program with access to the ship's database, and yet he needs to be given directions.
He is wrong about one thing, though: action does not need to be very expensive to film, but it requires a director and editor who can shoot and cut it so that it works, and actors who can believably carry it out. Voyager had none of those elements.
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I'm surprised Chuck didn't make reference to Ripley when Janeway stripped down. That's clearly what the inspiration was.
Mr. Harley: Your impatience is quite understandable.
Klaatu: I'm impatient with stupidity. My people have learned to live without it.
Mr. Harley: I'm afraid my people haven't. I'm very sorry... I wish it were otherwise.
"I do know that for the sympathy of one living being, I would make peace with all. I have love in me the likes of which you can scarcely imagine and rage the likes of which you would not believe.
If I cannot satisfy the one, I will indulge the other." – Frankenstein's Creature on the glacier[/size]
Klaatu: I'm impatient with stupidity. My people have learned to live without it.
Mr. Harley: I'm afraid my people haven't. I'm very sorry... I wish it were otherwise.
"I do know that for the sympathy of one living being, I would make peace with all. I have love in me the likes of which you can scarcely imagine and rage the likes of which you would not believe.
If I cannot satisfy the one, I will indulge the other." – Frankenstein's Creature on the glacier[/size]
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You know, there's some other thing involving giant viruses that this clearly ripped off, but I can't put my finger down on it...
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That's strange, I thought there already was a video for this.
Or maybe I'm just confusing it with the text review on Chuck's site.
Or maybe I'm just confusing it with the text review on Chuck's site.
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There was a text review, but the video is definitely new - and quite good as well.Ilya Muromets wrote:That's strange, I thought there already was a video for this.
Or maybe I'm just confusing it with the text review on Chuck's site.
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Once again when I watched this for the first time on TV, even back then I couldn't believe the scientific 'liberties' that were being taken. The one that stuck out in my mind was "How the Hell do they fly?"
I mean it seems classic Trek "logic." A virus can float though the air and infect people, so, a Giant virus must also, somehow, be able to magically fly? yeesh
Those things looked about the size of a pumpkin and might have been just as heavy.
I mean it seems classic Trek "logic." A virus can float though the air and infect people, so, a Giant virus must also, somehow, be able to magically fly? yeesh
Those things looked about the size of a pumpkin and might have been just as heavy.
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Not to mention the fact that viruses have no independent metabolism and can therefore do absolutely nothing without first infecting a living sell, other than float around in air or liquid. A virus outside a cell is inactive organic matter.Crossroads Inc. wrote: I mean it seems classic Trek "logic." A virus can float though the air and infect people, so, a Giant virus must also, somehow, be able to magically fly? yeesh
Those things looked about the size of a pumpkin and might have been just as heavy.
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Didn't Captain Kirk's USS Enterprise in another equally silly episode get trapped inside a gigantic bacterial blob floating in space?
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I hate to admit it but I enjoyed this episode. This is a great turn your brain off and watch the fools squirm episode. I always wondered why Torres thought it was a remotely good idea to touch the bio gel pack after she noted it was INFECTED with out any sort of anti contamination precautions or have the doctor scan it before touching it.
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Actually Spock did in the Shuttle; then they brought in the Enterprise to rescue him.Big Orange wrote:Didn't Captain Kirk's USS Enterprise in another equally silly episode get trapped inside a gigantic bacterial blob floating in space?
Mr. Harley: Your impatience is quite understandable.
Klaatu: I'm impatient with stupidity. My people have learned to live without it.
Mr. Harley: I'm afraid my people haven't. I'm very sorry... I wish it were otherwise.
"I do know that for the sympathy of one living being, I would make peace with all. I have love in me the likes of which you can scarcely imagine and rage the likes of which you would not believe.
If I cannot satisfy the one, I will indulge the other." – Frankenstein's Creature on the glacier[/size]
Klaatu: I'm impatient with stupidity. My people have learned to live without it.
Mr. Harley: I'm afraid my people haven't. I'm very sorry... I wish it were otherwise.
"I do know that for the sympathy of one living being, I would make peace with all. I have love in me the likes of which you can scarcely imagine and rage the likes of which you would not believe.
If I cannot satisfy the one, I will indulge the other." – Frankenstein's Creature on the glacier[/size]
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Because Torres is an idiot, haven't we established this already.hunter5 wrote:I hate to admit it but I enjoyed this episode. This is a great turn your brain off and watch the fools squirm episode. I always wondered why Torres thought it was a remotely good idea to touch the bio gel pack after she noted it was INFECTED with out any sort of anti contamination precautions or have the doctor scan it before touching it.
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I'm actually surprised that this isn't a Jeri Taylor script. The Janeway wank is set to factor 11 in this episode. Everyone is subdued except the mighty Janeway. And why didn't the bugs every try cumming on Janeway like they did Neelix?
A pretty terrible episode all around.
A pretty terrible episode all around.
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At least a bacteria can, you know, actually DO things.Big Orange wrote:Didn't Captain Kirk's USS Enterprise in another equally silly episode get trapped inside a gigantic bacterial blob floating in space?
Sure, a giant bacteria is silly as well - but at least you could write it off as a single-celled organism that is simply really big for some reason (which requires exotic materials etc, as with all giants).
But a giant virus would just be a dead lump of matter unless it encounters an even bigger cell.
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The difference between the TOS episode and the VOY episode is that TOS didn't take itself seriously, you know going in that it's going to be campy and silly. The Post-TNG era wasn't like that at all.
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I've seen enough of Star Trek to know that Star Trek writers actually have no idea what a virus is.Serafina wrote: At least a bacteria can, you know, actually DO things.
Sure, a giant bacteria is silly as well - but at least you could write it off as a single-celled organism that is simply really big for some reason (which requires exotic materials etc, as with all giants).
But a giant virus would just be a dead lump of matter unless it encounters an even bigger cell.
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You also have to remember that these thing are supposed to be viruses, just super sized. The TOS amoeba was just a ginormous space going life form that just happened to resemble a giant bacteria in appearance and biology.
Mr. Harley: Your impatience is quite understandable.
Klaatu: I'm impatient with stupidity. My people have learned to live without it.
Mr. Harley: I'm afraid my people haven't. I'm very sorry... I wish it were otherwise.
"I do know that for the sympathy of one living being, I would make peace with all. I have love in me the likes of which you can scarcely imagine and rage the likes of which you would not believe.
If I cannot satisfy the one, I will indulge the other." – Frankenstein's Creature on the glacier[/size]
Klaatu: I'm impatient with stupidity. My people have learned to live without it.
Mr. Harley: I'm afraid my people haven't. I'm very sorry... I wish it were otherwise.
"I do know that for the sympathy of one living being, I would make peace with all. I have love in me the likes of which you can scarcely imagine and rage the likes of which you would not believe.
If I cannot satisfy the one, I will indulge the other." – Frankenstein's Creature on the glacier[/size]
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Overall, the episode would have been much better if the ship had been invaded by Thalaxians and Janeway accidentally shot Neelix
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"Destiny and fate are for those too weak to forge their own futures. Where we are 'supposed' to be is irrelevent." - Sir Nitram
"The world owes you nothing but painful lessons" - CaptainChewbacca
"The mark of the immature man is that he wants to die nobly for a cause, while the mark of a mature man is that he wants to live humbly for one." - Wilhelm Stekel
"In 1969 it was easier to send a man to the Moon than to have the public accept a homosexual" - Broomstick
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"Destiny and fate are for those too weak to forge their own futures. Where we are 'supposed' to be is irrelevent." - Sir Nitram
"The world owes you nothing but painful lessons" - CaptainChewbacca
"The mark of the immature man is that he wants to die nobly for a cause, while the mark of a mature man is that he wants to live humbly for one." - Wilhelm Stekel
"In 1969 it was easier to send a man to the Moon than to have the public accept a homosexual" - Broomstick
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