DS vs SW

meNNis · Post by **meNNis** » 2003-02-20 12:32pm

okay, heres the deal. this is kinda long but i think this could be fun

DS1 falls through a wormhole and winds up in the middle of the AQ at the time when the ST galaxy is at its strongest (someone will need to help me out as to when that is... my knowledge of trek is only so good). Somehow or another the hyperdrive on the DS is damaged and unfixable, so for all intensive purposes, the DS has only SL drives. Also, shield generators have somehow been damaged, so shields can only charge to a maximum of 50%, hence shielding is at 50% of normal strength, and no, the generators cannot be fixed either. The DS though of course has its full compliment of fighters but instead of landing craft etc all docking space has been remodeled and filled with an assortment of basic TIE's, bombers, Defenders, Gunboats, etc. So basically what we have here is a DS1 and a whole shitload of small craft. oh yea and btw, the reactor holes have been fixed and the DS can NOT be killed the same was as it was by the Rebels in epIV. no tricks, the DS must be killed by brute strength.

my question is, how many inhabited Trek planets get destroyed before the DS is destroyed? or is it never? does the DS just wallow along at sublight pace, killing every ship in sight and slowly destroy every Trek planet? or do perhaps the feddies get smart, contact all the other races of the galaxy, and perhaps try and gather forces to ambush the DS somewhere? and even if they do, can they kill the massive DS?
or is the ST galaxy royally fucked? i leave it to you...

meNNis · Post by **meNNis** » 2003-02-20 12:54pm

dammit.. im such an idiot... the topic name should be DS vs ST

forgive me almighty Wong...

Kerneth · Post by **Kerneth** » 2003-02-20 12:55pm

Depends on where the wormhole drops the DS1. There's a chance the answer is "The crew of the Death Star all dies of old age before it gets to a Federation planet". Not to mention you've effectively put the DS1 in a situation where it's going to be putting an ENORMOUS strain on its sublight drives with no way of repairing them when they inevitably break down. Also, what sort of fuel source does the DS1 need, and is it available in the ST universe?

OTOH, if the wormhole drops the DS1 in the Sol system, the Federation is completely screwed because it could simply blow away Earth and kill the entire political leadership and most of Starfleet's top officers. On the other hand, the latter might be an advantage...

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2003-02-20 12:56pm

With sublight only...one or two systems before the crew dies of old age....

meNNis · Post by **meNNis** » 2003-02-20 12:58pm

hmm... okay, well i was trying to limit the DS so that it could easily be ambushed by whatever the Trek galaxy could throw at it, but okay how about the hyperdrive is damaged to the point where it travels at a medium-speed warp (trek-wise of course) ?

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2003-02-20 01:15pm

meNNis wrote:hmm... okay, well i was trying to limit the DS so that it could easily be ambushed by whatever the Trek galaxy could throw at it, but okay how about the hyperdrive is damaged to the point where it travels at a medium-speed warp (trek-wise of course) ?

Its surface is covered with enough turbolasers to slag pretty much everything any power in Trek can muster in moments......not even mentioning the firepower of its fighters (which have firepower closer to cap ships of the Federation) or its primary weapon.....

With the ability yo actually move from system to system it can conduct the "Great Galactic Spring Clean"

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2003-02-20 01:17pm

Even at 50% shields, the DS is still strong enough to deflect anything the
Feds can throw at it. The DS didn't even get a scratch from the exploding mass of Alderaan.

Admiral Johnason · Post by **Admiral Johnason** » 2003-02-20 05:54pm

And the Federation dies in a few months, quickly followed by all the other races. I would like to thank Tarkin for his mercy in getting rid of the post-Voyger crap that has been made.

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2003-02-20 06:01pm

The DS1 must require a SHITLOAD of fuel and food and water to keep itself running. Chances are in the SW universe it recieves supplies in titanic bulk-shipping through humongous convoys. In the ST universe they'd have to go down to a planet and probably steal their food and water. As far as I know there isn't anything the DS can do about fuel, which they will be constantley using to get from point A to point B of their conquest of the AQ.

Even with warp 6 or so capapbilities it'll take take days to reach the nearset star system (assuming were not Voyager distance away). They'd slag a few planets, the Feds might rally their forces in a futile assault. After they're defeated they'd probably run away until the DS exhausts itself.

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2003-02-20 06:27pm

They may get one or two systems, but after the crew dies the race begins and the prize is the Death Star.

Admiral Johnason · Post by **Admiral Johnason** » 2003-02-20 06:31pm

That would be way cool. The DS gets sucked through the wormhole and all the crew are dead, in the same way that people died by going thourh a wormhole in Farscape. The ensuing fight would be increadible.

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2003-02-20 06:36pm

Admiral Johnason wrote:That would be way cool. The DS gets sucked through the wormhole and all the crew are dead, in the same way that people died by going thourh a wormhole in Farscape. The ensuing fight would be increadible.

Basically it's like Mike Wongs new fanfic, except with the Death Star as the prize.

darthdavid · Post by **darthdavid** » 2003-02-20 11:58pm

Imagine, some bullshit feddie officer takes over and says "this station is an abomination against all that we stand for" and self destructs the ds. What a pitty. Or one of the races with a brain takes over and blows the federation outta the water.

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2003-02-21 12:00am

federation takes over death star with exploration crew, dismantles superlaser and turns barracks to day care center.

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2003-02-21 12:01am

federation takes over death star with exploration crew, dismantles superlaser and turns barracks to day care center.

GrandMasterTerwynn · Post by **GrandMasterTerwynn** » 2003-02-21 12:02am

meNNis wrote:okay, heres the deal. this is kinda long but i think this could be fun :twisted:

DS1 falls through a wormhole and winds up in the middle of the AQ at the time when the ST galaxy is at its strongest (someone will need to help me out as to when that is... my knowledge of trek is only so good). Somehow or another the hyperdrive on the DS is damaged and unfixable, so for all intensive purposes, the DS has only SL drives. Also, shield generators have somehow been damaged, so shields can only charge to a maximum of 50%, hence shielding is at 50% of normal strength, and no, the generators cannot be fixed either. The DS though of course has its full compliment of fighters but instead of landing craft etc all docking space has been remodeled and filled with an assortment of basic TIE's, bombers, Defenders, Gunboats, etc. So basically what we have here is a DS1 and a whole shitload of small craft. oh yea and btw, the reactor holes have been fixed and the DS can NOT be killed the same was as it was by the Rebels in epIV. no tricks, the DS must be killed by brute strength.

my question is, how many inhabited Trek planets get destroyed before the DS is destroyed? or is it never? does the DS just wallow along at sublight pace, killing every ship in sight and slowly destroy every Trek planet? or do perhaps the feddies get smart, contact all the other races of the galaxy, and perhaps try and gather forces to ambush the DS somewhere? and even if they do, can they kill the massive DS?
or is the ST galaxy royally fucked? i leave it to you... :twisted:

Number of planets killed. Zero. At sublight speeds, it would take the Death Star anywhere from years to centuries to travel from starsystem to starsystem. Their best hope would be to transform the Death Star into a gigantic orbital habitat.

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2003-02-21 12:44am

darthdavid wrote:Imagine, some bullshit feddie officer takes over and says "this station is an abomination against all that we stand for" and self destructs the ds. What a pitty. Or one of the races with a brain takes over and blows the federation outta the water.

They may just do that, but that doesn't mean that they wouldn't study the technology.

Coaan · Post by **Coaan** » 2003-02-21 01:57am

Enforcer Talen wrote:federation takes over death star with exploration crew, dismantles superlaser and turns barracks to day care center.

With a workingonboard bus service!!

Captain tycho · Post by **Captain tycho** » 2003-02-21 03:28am

Just a though...some of you have been talking about it using fuel for itself. I though I read somewhere that the central reactor was fully self-suffcient and powered most of the systems aboard the DS. Please correct if I'm wrong. ( Which I probably am.)

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2003-02-21 03:36am

could they feed themselves with it?

Coaan · Post by **Coaan** » 2003-02-21 03:43am

Enforcer Talen wrote:could they feed themselves with it?

They certainly wouldn't need a nightlight to take a piss in the dark if they could...

However if it's fully stocked then it's a case of flying to a feddie world, sending down a couple assault craft and liberate some replicators or at worst, steal all their food supplies...

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2003-02-21 03:45am

would that supply them long enough to get to the next world? when would they die of old age?

I can just imagine the feddies seeing this huge, invincible slug, approach it's planets once every couple a decades or so. you cant fight it. you just have to run.

going into orbit would almost be mandatory. hello, this planet is mine now.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-02-21 03:55am

The Empire would be the ones building the daycare center actually.

Convert Such and such bay into Hydroponics, Ok, raid this system for Replicators and Food storage. Capture this much of the native population of humans. Now we convert these Barracks into Military Training academy's. I believe we have a Generation ship now.

Captain tycho · Post by **Captain tycho** » 2003-02-21 04:45am

Why not just send out gunboats and shuttles to ask the Feddies for assistance. Then of course blow the shit outta them once the Feds give the imps a warp drive.

Coaan · Post by **Coaan** » 2003-02-21 05:08am

Captain tycho wrote:Why not just send out gunboats and shuttles to ask the Feddies for assistance. Then of course blow the shit outta them once the Feds give the imps a warp drive.

Could they build one phyiscally big enough to even move a ds?

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