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MIKE GLOVER, Associated Press Writer – 21 mins ago
DES MOINES, Iowa – Former U.S. House Speaker Newt Gingrich said Monday he's seriously considering seeking the Republican presidential nomination and will announce his decision early next year.
Gingrich, 67, told The Associated Press that he would focus on helping Republican candidates through the midterm elections in November, then decide in February or March whether to seek the GOP nomination.
"I've never been this serious," Gingrich said.

"It's fair to say that by February the groundwork will have been laid to consider seriously whether or not to run," he said.

Gingrich, in Des Moines for a fundraiser and workshop for local Republican candidates, predicted President Barack Obama would be a one-term president. Obama's poll numbers have dropped below 50 percent, and Gingrich predicted they would continue to fall, making him vulnerable in 2012.

Unlike President Bill Clinton, who rebounded from first-term problems by pushing for welfare reform and budget balancing changes that pleased moderate voters, Gingrich argued that Obama shows no inclination to move toward the center.

"He's not like Bill Clinton," Gingrich said. "Bill Clinton was an Arkansas, Southern Baptist, sort of understood middle American. While he had some Yale overtones being liberal, the truth is Bill Clinton was quite happy to move to the right."
Gingrich has been mentioned as a possible 2012 presidential candidate along with other Republicans, including former vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin, Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.

Gingrich had a long congressional career and was House speaker from 1995 to 1999. He was given much of the credit for the Republican takeover of the House in 1994. But he abruptly resigned from Congress in 1998 after his party faired poorly in midterm elections. He also was reprimanded by the House ethics panel for using tax-exempt funding to advance his political goals.

The former speaker, who championed a family values agenda, spearheaded efforts to impeach Clinton for perjury over his affair with White House intern Monica Lewinsky. Gingrich later admitted having an extramarital affair of his own in 1998 with a former congressional aide, Callista Bisek. He married Bisek after divorcing his second wife, Marianne.

After leaving Congress, Gingrich created American Solutions for Winning the Future, a tax-exempt organization that promotes conservative causes. He acknowledged considering a White House run in 2007 and said he also thought about a run against Clinton before deciding it wasn't possible.

"You couldn't be the first Republican speaker in a generation and engage in a contest with Bill Clinton for setting the direction of the country and run for president," said Gingrich. "It wasn't physically doable."
Gingrich said he would to return several time this year to Iowa, where precinct caucuses lead off the presidential nominating process. He said he planned to lay the groundwork for a campaign by working hard for Republicans in the midterm elections.

Gingrich is known for his frequently harsh rhetoric, and he didn't hold back in speaking about Obama.
"I think he will replace Jimmy Carter as the worst president of modern times," said Gingrich.
Thanks to Obama's performance, Gingrich said he expected that whoever wins the Republican nomination would win the White House.

"He is a disaster," Gingrich said of Obama. "His principles are fundamentally wrong. The people he appoints are more radical than he is and less competent."

Despite his fiery personality, Gingrich said he wasn't worried that his comments would turn off moderate voters. At a time when the economy remains fragile, Americans want results and aren't worried about personality, he said.

"I think likable is a word you have to think about a lot," said Gingrich. "If people believe their country is in trouble, they want a captain of the lifeboat, they don't want a fraternity brother."
As far as I'm concerned a Newt Presidential run would be like Dole 2.0. The guy is old stodgy and only good at stirling up the party base. I really can't see him doing to well with moderates or most 'normal' Americans unless he lies through his teeth. Not to mention he has a list of marriage infidelity and divorces, those will be nice to bring up.

But personally, the highlight of the article was this:
"I think he will replace Jimmy Carter as the worst president of modern times," said Gingrich.
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Hey, at least he writes alternate fiction.

Anyone read any of his work?
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KrauserKrauser wrote:Hey, at least he writes alternate fiction.

Anyone read any of his work?
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Crossroads Inc. wrote: I really can't see him doing to well with moderates or most 'normal' Americans unless he lies through his teeth.
You left out the fact that the right actually hates him more than you know, McCain:

Yeah, let's bring in the guy who not only did such an awesome job botching the Contract with America and is completely untrustworthy on most conservative issues, he's also led a morally disgusting personal life ! Yay!

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The thing that basically destroyed his chance at getting anywhere near the GOP nomination was when it was revealed he was having an affair at the same time he was leading the charge to impeach Clinton. :angelic: ; revealing him as a goddamn hypocrite of the highest order.

So yeah, he's just making noise; I wonder if he has a new book or something come up, and this is a cheap way of self promotion.
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MKSheppard wrote:So yeah, he's just making noise; I wonder if he has a new book or something come up, and this is a cheap way of self promotion.
That's almost certainly the case, especially when you consider that he has a book* that came out less than two months ago that he's likely promoting as much as possible. He did the same type of thing back in 2008, but never followed through.

Besides, if he were truly serious about this, he probably would be doing what most potential candidates are doing two years before the election - namely, sending out feelers to potential campaign staff, setting up "exploratory committees" for their potential runs, and the like.

* That book amuses me, particularly the title. I'll probably give it a skim on loan from the library, just to see what sort of stuff the Republicans will likely be spouting in the 2012 election.
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KrauserKrauser wrote:Hey, at least he writes alternate fiction.

Anyone read any of his work?
I just finished "Days Of Infamy" last week (bought it on a whim when I saw a hardcover for only $6 at B&N). The scenario (how would things have gone if the Japanese had carried out a third strike on Pearl Harbor and the Enterprise and Lexington had responded?) seems plausible enough to my amateur eye, and the book was a reasonably entertaining read. I will not likely read it again, but I don't regret reading it either.
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MKSheppard wrote:You left out the fact that the right actually hates him more than you know, McCain...
Doesn't matter. They'll ignore it, or pave over it, or just flat-out lie. McCain was born outside the United States (that's supposed to be a big deal) and left his wife who was crippled in an accident and got fat while rehabilitating so he could marry a prettier, younger gal; he was one of the central figures in a major financial scandal; he flipped on all his moderate principles to become a charicature Republican and then went and hired a RealDoll to be his running mate.

If the Conservatives of America can overlook McCain, then they can certainly overlook the "minor, long-ago foibles" of the guy who led the charge during the great Republican Revolution of 1994.

Conservatives will vote for him basically because he is not a certain Manchurian-Kenyan communist/socialist/Nazi guy..... who is also black!!!*. If he hints at an actual, squared-away running mate he'll be a contender.

I think we'll see the usual crowd of Rethugs this time around-- Romney for sure, possibly Huckabee, and now the Grinch. I'm actually surprised he didn't try last time.

*Not that this means anything, of course, I'm jus' sayin' (adjusts teabag).
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The Republicans will probably rally behind him if he gets the nomination, but all the other suspects are going to maul him the way they will Caribou Barbie. His time as Speaker of the House screams political incompetence and Romney and Huckabee will rip him apart on the campaign trail.
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Coyote wrote:Doesn't matter. They'll ignore it, or pave over it, or just flat-out lie. McCain was born outside the United States (that's supposed to be a big deal) and left his wife who was crippled in an accident and got fat while rehabilitating so he could marry a prettier, younger gal; he was one of the central figures in a major financial scandal; he flipped on all his moderate principles to become a charicature Republican and then went and hired a RealDoll to be his running mate.

If the Conservatives of America can overlook McCain, then they can certainly overlook the "minor, long-ago foibles" of the guy who led the charge during the great Republican Revolution of 1994.
Your assessment of McCain and the Republican base is horribly, horribly, horribly wrong.

John McCain had his chance in 2000 -- back then he was not considered by the Republican base as horribly "tainted". To give you an example; I would have voted for McCain in the 2000 primaries; but couldn't for legal reasons.

But by 2007; it had been seven years of bullshit from McCain; on various issues, such as McCain/Feingold which absolutely destroyed any fever among conservatives for a McCain 2008 run -- for example, you might recall that I voted for HUCKABEE in the MD Republican Primary, rather than vote McCain -- because Romney had by that point dropped out.

What saved his sorry carcass and dragged him to near the finish line was his pick of Palin to be his running mate.

John "I'm a Maverick, Damn it!" McCain didn't get the Republican base all excited or enthused, thanks to his past history from 2000-2007 of continually fucking fellow Republicans without a reach-around.

Meanwhile, Sarah "I love to hunt and kill things" Palin got it fired up sufficiently to make people at least hold their nose and vote McCain/Palin.
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Do you have any polling/statistical data to back that up, or are you just engaging in run-of-the-mill pundit shoot-from-the-hip fiat arguments about "mood", "momentum", "base energizing" and other buzzwords devoid of verifiable meaning?
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MKSheppard wrote:
Coyote wrote:Doesn't matter. They'll ignore it, or pave over it, or just flat-out lie. McCain was born outside the United States (that's supposed to be a big deal) and left his wife who was crippled in an accident and got fat while rehabilitating so he could marry a prettier, younger gal; he was one of the central figures in a major financial scandal; he flipped on all his moderate principles to become a charicature Republican and then went and hired a RealDoll to be his running mate.

If the Conservatives of America can overlook McCain, then they can certainly overlook the "minor, long-ago foibles" of the guy who led the charge during the great Republican Revolution of 1994.
Your assessment of McCain and the Republican base is horribly, horribly, horribly wrong.

John McCain had his chance in 2000 -- back then he was not considered by the Republican base as horribly "tainted". To give you an example; I would have voted for McCain in the 2000 primaries; but couldn't for legal reasons.

But by 2007; it had been seven years of bullshit from McCain; on various issues, such as McCain/Feingold which absolutely destroyed any fever among conservatives for a McCain 2008 run -- for example, you might recall that I voted for HUCKABEE in the MD Republican Primary, rather than vote McCain -- because Romney had by that point dropped out.

What saved his sorry carcass and dragged him to near the finish line was his pick of Palin to be his running mate.

John "I'm a Maverick, Damn it!" McCain didn't get the Republican base all excited or enthused, thanks to his past history from 2000-2007 of continually fucking fellow Republicans without a reach-around.

Meanwhile, Sarah "I love to hunt and kill things" Palin got it fired up sufficiently to make people at least hold their nose and vote McCain/Palin.
I don't see how any of that actually counters the fact that people simply glossed over McCain's 'indiscretions'.
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While it's a personal anecdote, I do work in an extremely conservative environment, and I must say that they have recently (since the election) rediscovered Newt and have been talking about him like he's the second coming. They also did the same thing with McCain when he became the chosen one to challenge Obama. Of course McCain is also former Navy, as are most of them (both civilian and military), so that made it easier.
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But that's the thing, Shep-- like I mentioned, he had all these past indiscretions but once the time was right, the Conservatives closed ranks around him. And despite his problems, he still managed to survive the primary process long enough that the Vice-President pick became an issue.

I agree with you about "the two John McCains"; I was an enthusiastic supporter of the 2000 model but the 2008 model was like a mutant wearing his skin.

But remember, back in the 90's we had Bill Clinton-- popular and successful, and a Democratic majority in the House. Newt Gingritch was the point man and face man of the much-vaunted "Republican Revolution of 1994" that took back GOP leadership in the House by, in retrospect, a slim majority. But they acted like they'd just won a war and it became second to Ronald Reagan Presidency in the hall of fame for recent Republican moments of shining glory. Gingritch had about a smany problems then as he has now, with a wife dumped for someone he was having an affair with.

People who are old enough still remember the "Republican Revolution" and it is still seen as a time of greatness to be emulated and repeated-- and Newt's the Golden Boy that led the charge.
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