Should they make the Romulan War - a made for TV movie?

[Tom_Kalbfus]

This might make a great one off, while the actors are still around to play the parts. Maybe SyFy could do it in association with Paramount. I am referring the the book The Romulan War: Beneath the Raptor's Wing by Michael A. Martin.

[Stofsk]

Short answer is no.

Long answer is hell no.

[Uraniun235]

Seriously, some things are better left to imagination, and I think the Earth-Romulan War is one of them. Let's go find something new.

[lord Martiya]

Had Enterprise a better series, I'd say yes. Given the situation, I say nothing, as I don't know English curses well enough to express my opinion.

[SilverWingedSeraph]

Honestly, if there's one piece of a Star Trek fiction I would have liked to see get turned into a made for TV movie or mini-series or something similar, it would have been A Stitch In Time. It's one of the only Trek books I've read that I actually enjoyed, and I personally love the character of Elim Garak. He's just great.

[Temujin]

The concept certainly could work, after all B5 pulled off the Earth Minbari War with "In the Beginning". If we had a different prequel series that was on par with TOS perhaps, but TNG era Star Trek is no B5, and Enterprise is arguably the worst of the lot.

[Srelex]

Provided it would have a decent production team, at least. And it would be better of having more of a pulpy space-opera type feel, like TOS on steroids in terms of sentiment, than the typical BSG/40k-aping grimdark crap you see today.

[RedImperator]

Never happening. Paramount didn't spend $150 million dollars rebooting the franchise just to make a TV movie with the cast of the series that was such an embarrasing failure it killed the original continunity.

[Gil Hamilton]

The concept certainly could work, after all B5 pulled off the Earth Minbari War with "In the Beginning". If we had a different prequel series that was on par with TOS perhaps, but TNG era Star Trek is no B5, and Enterprise is arguably the worst of the lot.

It's funny, because on paper "In the Beginning" wasn't that great, because it pasted together a whole bunch of separate things that you hear about in the series without much bridge in them. I credit it being a watchable movie virtually entirely to the strength of Peter Jurassik. Without Lando being played so well and his monologues, it kind of would have sucked, like the rest of the B5 movies.

If I were going to center a movie on something in StarTrek, I'd kind of like to bridge the TOS Klingons to the TNG Klingons and explain what the hell happened to their society, following up from StarTrek VI and revolving around Gorkon's daughter. Trekkies wouldn't like it though and the reboot Paramount made was wildly successful commercially. I wonder if they are going to do Reboot Space Seed with a Reboot Khan and his Reboot Ubermensch, possibly this time with Reboot Uhura being his love interest (because they can't just generate a random reboot yeoman for such an important role!).

[Themightytom]

I would recommend the ST franchise postpone tv projects until Rich Berman retires.

[Skylon]

No.

This is something I honestly imagine that could have been done better in the 60's. "Balance of Terror" created an image of the Romulan War that was archaic and brutal. Crappy space ships, with no visual communications (something no modern audience would believe a technologically advanced society couldn't have), blasting each other with atomic bombs.

It doesn't even sound all that entertaining when I type it out, and best as back story.

[Azron_Stoma]

possibly this time with Reboot Uhura being his love interest (because they can't just generate a random reboot yeoman for such an important role!).

Why? what's wrong with having a Reboot McGivers, along with Reboot Khan? both made their first, and only appearance in TOS in one episode.

[Themightytom]

No.

This is something I honestly imagine that could have been done better in the 60's. "Balance of Terror" created an image of the Romulan War that was archaic and brutal. Crappy space ships, with no visual communications (something no modern audience would believe a technologically advanced society couldn't have), blasting each other with atomic bombs.

It doesn't even sound all that entertaining when I type it out, and best as back story.

It's possible, just not likely. A character driven movie against the backdrop of a Romulan war, a la The hunt For Red October, or Crimson tide?

Literally declare Star Trek: Enterprise to have been a massive practical joke or just increase the range of torpedoes A LOT so that they are beyond communication range. Every time the Romulans see an earth ship approaching the fire away, so Earth stops bothering to try to get close enough to chat, and it becomes a battle at the edge of sensor range. Electronic warfare, intercepts, evading missiles etc, even sublight fighter screens provide the eye candy without ever bringing Romulans into visual range.

[Cecelia5578]

I just want the next Trek movie to have an original storyline. Not TWOK for the 21st century (though since Nemesis and nu Trek were supposed to be inspired by TWOK, would that be TWOK Part IV?)

[Joe Momma]

Literally declare Star Trek: Enterprise to have been a massive practical joke or just increase the range of torpedoes A LOT so that they are beyond communication range. Every time the Romulans see an earth ship approaching the fire away, so Earth stops bothering to try to get close enough to chat, and it becomes a battle at the edge of sensor range. Electronic warfare, intercepts, evading missiles etc, even sublight fighter screens provide the eye candy without ever bringing Romulans into visual range.

That's what the Enterprise books have done to some extent. The first two books leading up to Beneath the Raptor's Wing promptly disposed of the series finale as a historically inaccurate holodeck program and rewrote history from the Terra Prime episodes forward. Mostly of the Romulan actions so far have used captured enemy ships controlled by their telepresence units, paid Orion mercenaries, etc. rather than direct confrontation. A few people are aware that the Romulans are a Vulcan off-shoot, but have agreed to silence rather than further the divisions among the allied worlds that the Romulans are already exploiting.

But I agree that the chances of seeing any major studios put out mini-series or movies using the old continuity are nil (though there still seem to be fan-made productions doing so).

[Alyx]

Well, the unproduced Star Trek: The Beginning, was supposed to be about the Romulan War. Made for TV movie based on the same premise could have been interesting.

[Temujin]

Well, the unproduced Star Trek: The Beginning, was supposed to be about the Romulan War. Made for TV movie based on the same premise could have been interesting.

Color me not impressed. Romulans attacking Earth ala Pearl Harbor by using the Moon for cover. Gee, why didn't they just attack at night.

Seriously, the franchise is fucking dead. Abrams' shit saved/reinvigorated/whatevered the franchise in the same manner that resuscitating a clinically dead person and leaving a severely brain damaged and mentally retarded individual in its place does. It's now nothing more than mainstream Hollywood fluff.

[Temujin]

Literally declare Star Trek: Enterprise to have been a massive practical joke or just increase the range of torpedoes A LOT so that they are beyond communication range. Every time the Romulans see an earth ship approaching the fire away, so Earth stops bothering to try to get close enough to chat, and it becomes a battle at the edge of sensor range. Electronic warfare, intercepts, evading missiles etc, even sublight fighter screens provide the eye candy without ever bringing Romulans into visual range.

That's what the Enterprise books have done to some extent. The first two books leading up to Beneath the Raptor's Wing promptly disposed of the series finale as a historically inaccurate holodeck program and rewrote history from the Terra Prime episodes forward.

Ignoring the final episode is not the same as writing off all of Boobyprise.

Mostly of the Romulan actions so far have used captured enemy ships controlled by their telepresence units, paid Orion mercenaries, etc. rather than direct confrontation.

While its easy to say we don't know enough about the Earth-Romulan War* to say those things never happened, it frankly is a cop out. If Enterprise had been developed in such a way that gave it a pre-TOS feel, and not Next Generation just with different nomenclature, then it would be easy to depict the conflict as described in TOS.

But I agree that the chances of seeing any major studios put out mini-series or movies using the old continuity are nil (though there still seem to be fan-made productions doing so).

Those fan productions are shit as well. While the detail of the remade sets are impressive, they've bought into the whole NextGen mentality of technobabble and cheap plot devices.


*And yes, it was the Earth-Romulan War, not the Federation-Romulan War that "The Adventures of Captain Duchess" tried to portray!

[Themightytom]

Well, the unproduced Star Trek: The Beginning, was supposed to be about the Romulan War. Made for TV movie based on the same premise could have been interesting.

Color me not impressed. Romulans attacking Earth ala Pearl Harbor by using the Moon for cover. Gee, why didn't they just attack at night.

Seriously, the franchise is fucking dead. Abrams' shit saved/reinvigorated/whatevered the franchise in the same manner that resuscitating a clinically dead person and leaving a severely brain damaged and mentally retarded individual in its place does. It's now nothing more than mainstream Hollywood fluff.

Oh geez see thats what we DON'T want to happen, how do you hide a fleet approaching from interstellar distances behind the moon? if they're close enough that the moon can hide them doesn't this mean its already too late?

And why were they making Kirk's grandfather the son of neo nazis for gods sake???

[Temujin]

The whole thing reeks of bad Hollywood cliches. I think the comment by Pound Sand sums it up best: "Somewhere between fan fiction, and a failed screenplay?"