Soontir C'boath wrote:RowanE wrote:
There's a gap between "treating hypothermia" and "effective against almost every type of injury and ailment" as it's described on wookiepedia.
I'm piqued, what's this gap you speak of?
Hypothermia is an ailment/sickness.
Sorry if I didn't explain that correctly. I mean a gap between
- Previous understanding of bacta: Hypothermia treatment
- New understanding of bacta: Super-medicine that cures everything.
So it seems much more powerful to me now, and so I'm less critical of star wars medicine relative to trek medicine than i was before.
Soontir C'boath wrote:So, now that I'm no longer certain of which universe I think is best in one aspect, I should shut the fuck up?
Yes, especially when later on in that post you stated it wasn't an universe you'd want to live in so apparently you in fact do.
Looking back, that is a bit of a contradiction. In the post I think you're referring to, I was somehow thinking of the bacta thing, and Padme's death, separately rather than as aspects of medicine in star wars. I'll accept that the quality of medicine is at least about as good as that in star trek.
Soontir C'boath wrote:It was a hypothesis. Force-sensitives have mind powers, therefore losing the will to live may have a greater physical impact than the effect it has in the real world, which is basically fuckall. I don't know if padme is force-sensitive or not, but since her two children are it's not too big an assumption. This would explain her dying even if the only apparent cause of death is she's lost the will to live. But since she's also got larynx damage, there's not really a need to make up an explanation like that. So nevermind.
Hey asswipe, she was never known to be force sensitive even near force-users ie. Anakin who would sense it and force users do not need to have force using parents so no she's not (
Wookiepedia: Force-sensitive) . Stop assuming shit you can't back up, you dumb fuck.
I wasn't "assuming" it, it was a hypothesis. A possibility.
Soontir C'boath wrote:The reason it's not desirable in this hypothesis is that it just further emphasises that
a) There are people out there who can kill you with their minds
b) You're not likely to be one.
Organians come to mind, no?
Unlike the Sith and the Jedi, the Organians are mainly on one planet, and don't intefere much with outside affairs. That said, there's an assload of various Q-like beings in the trek galaxy. but they're not humans.
In the wars universe, there's a number of people who are quantifiably (midichlorian count) better than you, some can kill you with a whim. They're luckier than you, even. If you're not born that way, you will never have that power. These superior human beings live in your civilization, and you will never even compete with them at what they put their minds to. Isn't that a terrifying thought?
Now look at the alternative - you're born with a high midichlorian count. You now know for a fact you're better than 99% of people, or at least, are intrinsically more powerful than them. It's understandable why the choice to most force-sensitives is
a) Become a monk
b) Develop into a power-crazed psychopath, driving away anyone who loved you.
I consider that to be a point against livingin the Wars-verse. Maybe you think you wouldn't feel as inferior, could control your powers more easily, or would just revel in the power to shoot lightning at people you don't like.
Soontir C'boath wrote:You're right, I shouldn't have specified officer. I just don't consider it desirable to be enlisted personnel on an imperial ship. Emphasis should be on imperial - the only interaction you're likely to have with a star destroyer, if you're not serving in the imperial fleet, is to be exploded by one. So deadlier ships is bad.
Right because Tantive IV wasn't carrying classified documents that they weren't suppose to have or were you referring to something else?
I was thinking more in general. Besides shooting at it, what interaction does the imp navy have with civilian vessels? The only situation where they give a shit about you is when you've pissed them off, and they come get you.
But, thinking about it, the deadliness of ships is relative anyway. The more relevant issue in question here is, can a star trek ship kill another star trek ship as easily as a similar matchup of star wars ships? And I can tell that's too vague a question to easily answer definitively, so is it best to just say it's about the same?
Soontir C'boath wrote:Point is discipline is relatively harsh. In the federation you'd probably get a stern talking-to.
Yes, it's no wonder why the Federation wears pajamas.
It's more comfortable, and doesn't make you look like the SS. Then again, the SS-style uniforms still look
really cool
But no, I'll choose the pajamas. And does an ISD have a holodeck?