Predators (Spoilers)
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Re: Predators (Spoilers)
To add, I'm not saying the AvP movies were good. I just thought they were at least entertaining, while "Predators" was boring for me.
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Re: Predators (Spoilers)
How do you think it was boring? Do you mean its just tired plotwise, or that none of the action was 'sold'?Guardsman Bass wrote:To add, I'm not saying the AvP movies were good. I just thought they were at least entertaining, while "Predators" was boring for me.
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Have you watched the AvP films recently? If not, go and check them out again. They'll undoubtedly be worse than you remember them.Guardsman Bass wrote:To add, I'm not saying the AvP movies were good. I just thought they were at least entertaining, while "Predators" was boring for me.
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A little bit of the former, but mostly none of the scenes really excited me. The best sequence was probably when they were fighting the alien "dogs", but after that . . . meh. Plus, there was that whole bit when they were wandering around after gathering the "team" together before anything happened, which is okay if you're doing a little bit of character development (or your characters are awesome and funny, like in "Predator"), but not so much if you're forgoing that for more or less pure action.Stark wrote:How do you think it was boring? Do you mean its just tired plotwise, or that none of the action was 'sold'?Guardsman Bass wrote:To add, I'm not saying the AvP movies were good. I just thought they were at least entertaining, while "Predators" was boring for me.
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Just back from seeing this, and something occurred to me on the way home. I'm not sure how this ties in with the AvP movies and Predator 2, but it doesn't contradict them, it just ignores them. It could be that this planet is a response to the Predators' almighty fuckup as depicted in AvP, with the Aliens overrunning the pyramid. Perhaps Predator Greenpeace told them to stop mucking about with 'wilderness', so they have to use this planet now. 
Not sure if there are clues to timeframes which contradict my ramblings in the movie, though.
I'd also kinda like to see a Predator movie where the human race gets fed up with the Predators picking on us all the time, and sends a huge fleet to blow them the fuck up. Lets see what their proper military is armed with.
Not sure if there are clues to timeframes which contradict my ramblings in the movie, though.
I'd also kinda like to see a Predator movie where the human race gets fed up with the Predators picking on us all the time, and sends a huge fleet to blow them the fuck up. Lets see what their proper military is armed with.
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andrewgpaul wrote: I'd also kinda like to see a Predator movie where the human race gets fed up with the Predators picking on us all the time, and sends a huge fleet to blow them the fuck up. Lets see what their proper military is armed with.
I'd love to see this set in universe set forth with "Aliens". A situation such as this could go great lengths to demonstrating colonial marine capabilities as well as that of the predators. I'd pay money to watch it.
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Well, if the recent AVP game is anything to go by, human vessels don't fare very well against Pred ships, to say the least. I think it's the same case in the comics. Besides, do the Preds even have a concrete homeworld or centralized society?andrewgpaul wrote: I'd also kinda like to see a Predator movie where the human race gets fed up with the Predators picking on us all the time, and sends a huge fleet to blow them the fuck up. Lets see what their proper military is armed with.
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I said humans, not the USCMC. As for Predator society, I'm sure they could make something up. I was actually thinking of totally inverting the balance of power; like B5's Earth-Minbari war, with the humans in the Minbari's position. I'd like to have it told in flashback, by an old Predator to children. Perhaps keeping the fact that the aggressors are humans as a twist at the end. That'd be better done as a comic though.
As for Predator society, I'm sure they could make something up. I was actually thinking of totally inverting the balance of power; like B5's Earth-Minbari war, with the humans in the Minbari's position. I'd like to have it told in flashback, by an old Predator to children. Perhaps keeping the fact that the aggressors are humans as a twist at the end. That'd be better done as a comic though."So you want to live on a planet?"
"No. I think I'd find it a bit small and wierd."
"Aren't they dangerous? Don't they get hit by stuff?"
"No. I think I'd find it a bit small and wierd."
"Aren't they dangerous? Don't they get hit by stuff?"
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Saw it with the missus last night. Was ok. Was hoping the 'doctor' was just a tragic mistake on behalf of the aliens instead of a psycho.
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AVP2 was complete garbage, AVP2 had a little novelty to it.adam_grif wrote:Have you watched the AvP films recently? If not, go and check them out again. They'll undoubtedly be worse than you remember them.Guardsman Bass wrote:To add, I'm not saying the AvP movies were good. I just thought they were at least entertaining, while "Predators" was boring for me.
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I assume you mean AvP1 was complete garbage?
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I've seen it yesterday night and was not overly impressed by it. Sure, it was entertaining but in the beginning it dragged a lot until it started to get interesting. Fishburne's part was very good, but they could have made more use of him. And with the hamfisted "I am a tough mercenary, but I find you sexy" ending ruined it somewhat. Dunno why they had to add that.
Still, it was better than AvP/AvP2 by a wide margin
Still, it was better than AvP/AvP2 by a wide margin
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I just got back from seeing this, and I thoroughly enjoyed it; I liked that it moved away from a lot of the Predator-as-honorable-samurai-warrior bullshit of the past few movies and focused on their tribalistic barbarism as in the first film.
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One thing I didn't understand was Spoiler
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I just loved it how they saw the Mexican guy sit in the grass, could immediately tell it was a trap (Holy shit was I surprised!) and then...proceed to stand around in the open talking about what to do.
Ex-military for sure!
The pred probably didn't kill them out of shock. I could almost see him thinking, "Jesus christ and I paid 20 000 credits for this pack of clowns?! I'm so getting a refund!"
Also, password protecting your ride is apparently beyond the Predator species.
Though they could've tried for a new formula, since I felt the movie was basically Predator 1 with different characters.
BTW, could anyone remind me what terrible enemies Israel is fighting in all the world's jungles?
Ex-military for sure!
The pred probably didn't kill them out of shock. I could almost see him thinking, "Jesus christ and I paid 20 000 credits for this pack of clowns?! I'm so getting a refund!"
Also, password protecting your ride is apparently beyond the Predator species.
Though they could've tried for a new formula, since I felt the movie was basically Predator 1 with different characters.
BTW, could anyone remind me what terrible enemies Israel is fighting in all the world's jungles?
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