Transformers War for Cybertron is terrible

[SilverWingedSeraph]

It's not a preference, jackass; he hates voice comms, and avoids phones. Better luck next time.

I avoid phones if I can help it. Not because they make me uncomfortable or anything, but because there's just a lack in voice-only communication that bugs me. In direct face-to-face communication, it's more personal, it makes it easier to pick up on people's reactions based on facial expressions and gestures, and lulls in conversation aren't as awkward because there's a medium other than just the audio.

So yeah, I can see where he's coming from. If that means I have a social anxiety disorder... eh.

The hardware pressure is already resulting in Japanese splitscreen games that use maybe 25% of the screen for each player, because the hardware just can't handle it any other way.

This makes me think of the split-screen multiplayer in Armored Core 4 and Armored Core for Answer. It's god damn horrible. Even on a nice big flat-screen TV you really can't see shit, 'cause the split-screen is that bad.

[Executor32]

Back to the original topic, now that I've picked it up I can say that the OP is completely wrong. They definitely do damage, because there have been times when I've had one bar of health left and I've had to rely on them to kill baddies whilst I run/drive/fly around trying not to die before I find an Energon cube. Granted, it seems to be about half what it would be if I was doing the shooting, but hey, I hear third-person shooter players like to be Billy Baddasstron.

Oh, and this is the PC version, too, before anyone brings up the specter of PC-specific bugs or something.

[Starglider]

A lot of people do have a phobia about using phones / Skype etc. I know quite a few, for some it's just strangers that are a problem, for others it's any phone use at all. It can be a significant disadvantage, e.g. coming across badly in conference calls and failing job phone interviews etc. I don't know why you'd call it a 'disoder', rather than just 'gets freaked out by phones'. It's not as if humans evolved to have conversations with people who aren't there.

Anyway, for me online play is only really good for friends that live too far away to casually meet up with. This is why I rarely use the XBL multiplayer, very few of my friends have X360s. I used to meet up with random strangers for LAN parties a fair bit when I was a student (the CompSci society organised them) and it really did work a lot better than joining random FPS servers. It wasn't so much that being in the same house made it easier to communicate, we often had wore headsets anyway, it was that the context of the organised social event let you met the players before and after, and discouraged people from being random jerks because they could just log off and find a new server at any moment.

[Molyneux]

Back to the original topic, now that I've picked it up I can say that the OP is completely wrong. They definitely do damage, because there have been times when I've had one bar of health left and I've had to rely on them to kill baddies whilst I run/drive/fly around trying not to die before I find an Energon cube. Granted, it seems to be about half what it would be if I was doing the shooting, but hey, I hear third-person shooter players like to be Billy Baddasstron.

Oh, and this is the PC version, too, before anyone brings up the specter of PC-specific bugs or something.

I wasn't sure that there was a PC version - thanks for confirming that for me. (GameInformer only listed PS3 and XBox for the game, I believe.)
I may go ahead and get this for PC, depending on whether my machine can handle it.

Oh, and Stark - fuck off. I own a cell phone, I have a telephone on my desk, I avoid phones for face-to-face or text communication purely out of personal preference. No disorders, thank you very much. And you're a cunt for suggesting that a preference for playing video games in the same room as my friends is something negative, much less trying to backpedal and claim it was a joke, you dipshit.

I play Steam games with a mic quite often; even so, my friends and I have been known to bring our laptops all to the same house and play some TF2 because it's just more fun when you can see your opponents/teammates.

[Thanas]

Any further psycho-analyzing in this thread will get booted to testing as well. Stay on topic or you will be opppressed.

[Vympel]

I started playing last night (at a friend's place, not my own copy, lol). Barricade (is there anything this voice actor can't do?!) and Brawl definitely did damage.

Damn cool game. Very fun.

[Stark]

Did you notice what the MP population was like on PS3? I imagine the playerbase on 360 will be go ne once reach comes out.

[Vympel]

Did you notice what the MP population was like on PS3? I imagine the playerbase on 360 will be go ne once reach comes out.

Nah, was playing the SP campaign for fun, didn't connect to MP.

[CaptHawkeye]

I like the game. It's rough in some areas, mostly technical. It's overall design is good and even if its a total ripoff it's a GOOD ripoff. I just like how they balanced the vehicles and robots so they both make sense to use in any situation.

[Manus Celer Dei]

It kinda bugged me how little you use the plane-robots in the campaign, and that only in missions where all the selectable characters are jets as well. I guess it's understandable though, given how difficult it'd be to make the levels enjoyable for both ground-bound and airborne characters.

Oh well! It's still pretty great. And the multi is fun.

[Balrog]

Can you play as a jet transformer in multi though? I've only played the online demo and you could only choose between car and tank.

[Stark]

They wanted to make proper plane levels in SP, so you only use them once. I think the Autobot plane level is by far the better of the two. This is obviously a cop-out for scripting because multi and horde work fine in 'foot' levels with planes flying around.

Balrog, did you really just ask if you can use planes in multi after playing the demo where the four classes are big car, truck, tank and jet pictures?

[Temjin]

Can you play as a jet transformer in multi though? I've only played the online demo and you could only choose between car and tank.

Yup, you can. They're called the scientist class.

They're basically medics, with the ability to heal teammates. In combat, they're hit and run specialists with the least amount of health among the four classes. They do have the awesome ability to drop turrets though.

[Stark]

The turrets suck until you get the perks to beef them up, though, especially considering the poor hitpoints of jets. A team of jets placing their turrets in the same place with rockets is the definition of lame, however.

[Darksider]

The turrets suck until you get the perks to beef them up, though, especially considering the poor hitpoints of jets. A team of jets placing their turrets in the same place with rockets is the definition of lame, however.

Lame as in "cheap and overpowered," or lame as in *Facepalm* those retards have no idea how to play?

[Stark]

It can be both. Turrets suck because they're so easy to destroy, but a critical mass in the right place can really disrupt a team.

Scientists are a hard class to use and the safest way is to play turret and medic, so it's not surprising it goes that way. Some guys are absurd with the zoom and boom though.

[Vendetta]

Scientists are a hard class to use and the safest way is to play turret and medic, so it's not surprising it goes that way. Some guys are absurd with the zoom and boom though.

On the other hand, the EMP shotgun is lethal point blank, so if you can fly into someone and blast them they're almost certainly dead, and if they're not a melee will finish them, then you fly away giggling.

Only now everyone's realised that you can spam the Neutron Cannon, so you see whole teams of bunnyhopping leaders. (Though a soldier with Flak Armour can basically ignore the NC)

[Stark]

That's boom and zoom. The scout has a few similar moves especially close from cloak, which is why they're the most annoying classes.

The game was always a bunny festival, though.

[CaptHawkeye]

Can you play as a jet transformer in multi though? I've only played the online demo and you could only choose between car and tank.

Yup, you can. They're called the scientist class.

They're basically medics, with the ability to heal teammates. In combat, they're hit and run specialists with the least amount of health among the four classes. They do have the awesome ability to drop turrets though.

They also have the hilariously cool disguise ability. Which i've found use for on more than one occasion.

[Stark]

It leads to some funny moments; your mate Chairman drives away as a truck, then a plane lands in front of you, called Chairman. Hmmm. He tries to stand behind you!

[Balrog]

Balrog, did you really just ask if you can use planes in multi after playing the demo where the four classes are big car, truck, tank and jet pictures?

Didn't bother to look at the pictures, was just a quick session anyways over at a friend's.