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Ridley Scott will tell the S@#% out of the Space Jockey's origins.

Before the Alien prequel and its sequel hit theatres, we bring you some cool plot points from the man who first told us that, in space, no one can hear you scream: Ridley Scott.

At The Los Angeles Times' recent Hero Complex Film Series, Scott was on hand for a Q & A after screening 1979's Alien. The director teased some cool details regarding the story of the Space Jockey.

The first prequel will focus on the Space Jockey and how it and its ship came into contact with the aliens. The second prequel will "go to where [the Space Jockey] came from", according to Scott.

As for who, or what, the Space Jockey is? Scott says: "I think beneath that carcass...it's not a carcass, it's a suit. Inside the suit is a being." The Space Jockey is that very large man fossil that Dallas' away team found in some sort of chair thing in Alien, seemingly a victim of the alien chestburster.

The time frame of the prequel takes place way before that of Alien, and Scott will be exploring Zeta 2 Reticuli, the same system from Alien - an area of space that will play a key role in this chapter of the franchise.

The first script for the Alien prequel is written and Scott is in early pre-production on the film, which will be shot in 3D. The script status of the prequel's sequel was not confirmed at the Q & A as being complete, contrary to other reports.

So how will Scott take the Alien back to its scarier, less AVP roots? Easy: Keep it truthful.

"...I think the closer it is to the truth, the closer it is to the technological feasibility, then it becomes that much more interesting," Scott said. "And if it's a film like the one I'm going to do, then it becomes that much more frightening." (*Drops the mic*)

Ridley Scott's first reunion tour with the alien hopes to hit theatres in 2011.
Guardian wrote: Ridley Scott plans two-part Alien prequel

The director has also revealed that the prequels to his classic 1979 slasher-in-space flick would be shot in 3D

Ridley Scott-directed Alien films are, it seems, a bit like buses: you wait 30 years for one, and then two come along at once.

The veteran British film-maker, who was at the LA press junket for his new film Robin Hood, told Collider.com that he was planning a brace of 3D prequels to his classic 1979 slasher-in-space flick.

"It'll be two," revealed Scott. "Prequel one and two, then Alien 1." Asked if he would shoot the two films back-to-back, he responded: "At the moment I'm just trying to get the first one out."

Scott announced in July that he would be directing a prequel to Alien, but the second film is a new development. He also said that the screenplay for the first film was into its fourth draft, with a release date planned for late 2011 or 2012. Finally, Scott said he planned to shoot the films in dazzling brightness to help the 3D process, before darkening the screen in post-production to suit the franchise's sombre tone.

Scott had originally intended to be a producer on the Alien prequel, with his protege Carl Rinsch, a TV adverts director, taking the reins. But following reports that studio 20th Century Fox was unhappy with the idea of an untried director, it was announced that the Gladiator film-maker himself would be behind the cameras.

The new films, as announced last year, will be set before the events of Scott's 1979 film, in which the crew of a commercial towing ship respond to a distress signal from an empty ship, only to discover too late that the signal was meant to warn them. Three sequels and two Aliens Vs Predator spin-offs followed, but only James Cameron's 1987 Aliens lived up to the original. The prequels will be Scott's first science-fiction project since Blade Runner in 1982.
Sounds cautiously promising. The film is apparently going to be 30 years prior to the original Alien and will have a new female heroine.
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Well, it seems I was a bit trigger happy.
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Oh yeah, 3D and fake night. Then again, Ridley Scott has been a good little trooper and followed the wishes of the studio bosses ever since Blade Runner and the cut debacle. I suppose we should be thankful that he directs it rather than some hack. On the other hand, perhaps a fresh face could re-invigorate the franchise.
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The important question is, do they have HR Giger?

Aside from that though, I fear the idea that Scott could make his notion of the space jockey being the malevolent creator of the aliens, and that ship a bomber that drops the eggs canonical.
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I too am glad to know what happened in the Alien story before humanity ever encountered the Aliens.

Oh wait that sounds horrible.
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I don't understand the fanboy obsession with wanting to uncover every single mystery in a background. Isn't it so much creepier to not know what the hell the space jockey is? It adds so much to the atmopshere of that movie. Invariably you will be disappointed when the mystery is revealed. X-Men Origins anyone?
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Mrm, then watching Alien again after seeing the prequels of dubious quality would affect the whole original movie for better or worse. I hope he goes with something that will compliment Alien, rather than fuck it up.
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Only two men should be involved in any Alien movie (whether it be a prequel, sequel, or whatever): Ridley Scott, and James Cameron. Everyone else has fucked it up. Personally I have confidence that Scott can do something interesting.
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Stofsk wrote:Only two men should be involved in any Alien movie (whether it be a prequel, sequel, or whatever): Ridley Scott, and James Cameron. Everyone else has fucked it up. Personally I have confidence that Scott can do something interesting.
I hold on to the hope that Cameron might hopefully make a worthy Aliens sequel, or even a spin off focusing on the colonial marines in the greater cold war conflict hinted at in the colonial marines tech manual.
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Do you really think that? Why?

The idea of James Cameron filming an action movie spin-off of a scifi franchise based on fanfiction nobody has heard of is pretty funny, but I'm not sure if its anything else. :)

This movie will be worth watching just to see how awful Ripley 2.0 is.
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Awesome! A movie removing the mystery and hidden depth of the franchise and also not featuring Ripley! That sounds awesome!

OH WAIT, no it doesn't it sounds lke an awful idea. Alien was scary for the same reason Jaws was. We practically never saw the thing properly , we don't know where it comes from, why it was there or who that spaceship belonged to. Also the franchise was never about the Aliens. It was about Ripley, about her fear, her strength, her mental state and her relationship with Weyland-Yutani as well as the Alien.
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IIRC, isn't the current canon that the Space Jockeys engineered the Xenomorphs as a biological weapon they used in an ancient war, and that they proceeded to be wiped out by them (and the xenomorphs were then seeded around the place by the Yuatja who use hunting them as a rite of passage)?
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LionElJonson wrote:IIRC, isn't the current canon that the Space Jockeys engineered the Xenomorphs as a biological weapon they used in an ancient war, and that they proceeded to be wiped out by them (and the xenomorphs were then seeded around the place by the Yuatja who use hunting them as a rite of passage)?

That was the prevailing fanon at Planet AVP back in the day, but as far as I know it isn't part of the actual canon.
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LionElJonson wrote:IIRC, isn't the current canon that the Space Jockeys engineered the Xenomorphs as a biological weapon they used in an ancient war, and that they proceeded to be wiped out by them (and the xenomorphs were then seeded around the place by the Yuatja who use hunting them as a rite of passage)?

That was the prevailing fanon at Planet AVP back in the day, but as far as I know it isn't part of the actual canon.
Fair enough. I'm only vaguely acquainted with the actual canon materials it has, so I wasn't entirely sure. IIRC, I read that in a fan-produced RPG supplement.

I'm wondering how he'll go about this, though; it's not like he's going to get permission for alien-on-alien-on-alien violence without any humans involved. This is modern Hollywood, after all.
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I think it's pretty obvious; the characters will find the aliens, die, and in the closing seconds send a message to the company about the location and value of the find, so that they can place Ash on the Nostromo and re-route it.
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Sinewmire wrote:Awesome! A movie removing the mystery and hidden depth of the franchise and also not featuring Ripley! That sounds awesome!

OH WAIT, no it doesn't it sounds lke an awful idea. Alien was scary for the same reason Jaws was. We practically never saw the thing properly.
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Stark wrote:I think it's pretty obvious; the characters will find the aliens, die, and in the closing seconds send a message to the company about the location and value of the find, so that they can place Ash on the Nostromo and re-route it.
Oh shit, so prior to the Nostromo, there was ALREADY another company ship that went over to LV-whatever, had its crewmember facehuggered and chestburstered, and had everyone else killed by the alienoids and shit, but not before sending a message so the Nostromo would go there, get a crewmember facehuggered and chestburstered, and had almost everyone else killed by the alienoids except Ellen Ripley, last survivor of the Nostromo? Awesome! :D
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And before all that, there were like 200 separate instances of aliens and predators appearing on Earth for various reasons. Also, Weyland is like 500 years old and a clone and a cyborg. Or something.
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adam_grif wrote:
LionElJonson wrote:IIRC, isn't the current canon that the Space Jockeys engineered the Xenomorphs as a biological weapon they used in an ancient war, and that they proceeded to be wiped out by them (and the xenomorphs were then seeded around the place by the Yuatja who use hunting them as a rite of passage)?
That was the prevailing fanon at Planet AVP back in the day, but as far as I know it isn't part of the actual canon.
Don't worry, the fanboys will find a way to retcon the new story into their fan fiction.
Stark wrote:I think it's pretty obvious; the characters will find the aliens, die, and in the closing seconds send a message to the company about the location and value of the find, so that they can place Ash on the Nostromo and re-route it.
Oh Cthulhu no! That sounds exactly like what they'll do.
adam_grif wrote:And before all that, there were like 200 separate instances of aliens and predators appearing on Earth for various reasons. Also, Weyland is like 500 years old and a clone and a cyborg. Or something.
I don't know about novels, but a lot of the comic material was pretty fucking bad. One of them had Ripley's male ancestor killing an alien in the 1950s. It's similar to what I said in a previous thread about loving a good story so much you want more, when it really should just be left alone because every attempt to add to it just lowers the overall quality of franchise.
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I don't care if they've got Ridley Scott on this project; no writer or director is capable of making the Space Jockey more interesting and mysterious than it already is. Any further information revealed about the origin or purpose of the Space Jockey or the xenomorphs is only going to make both of them significantly lamer.

To be honest, the first movie was really the height of the franchise. The title really says it all; an unknown, strange, "Alien" presence. The slow-pace and claustrophobic atmosphere was what really made it a masterpiece. I'd argue that even Cameron's sequel, which I grant was an absolutely thrilling and entertaining film, actually somewhat detracted from the horror of the first film. In the first film, the alien is this unseen, horrific nightmare that attacks you in confined spaces and drags you off to further unspeakable horrors. In Cameron's film, the Marines can just kill hundreds of aliens with machine guns, or squash them with tanks. But at least the second film was an awesome action movie; it also had memorable characters, and the "alien lair" managed to recapture the horrific claustrophobia of the first film.

But really, anything further is just pushing it. Cameron already showed us that a decently-trained soldier can easily just kill a xenomorph. That's why Alien 3 (which I think is underestimated) had to be set in an environment where nobody had access to weapons. But really, at this point any further use of the xenomorphs is just pointless. The only way they continue to be menacing is through plot contrivance (magic Aztec temples?) or character stupidity (see Alien Resurrection). Let's face it, the Alien was only scary because it hid in dark corridors and nobody knew what it was. It was just this black, shadowy nightmare from space. But when you shine a spotlight on it, it becomes a CGI dinosaur that can be killed with a shotgun. And really, any further movies are only going to serve to brighten that spotlight.
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If the last shot is a Hurt lookalike on a space station saying 'nah your other science dude is sick it's me this run' and then RAISING HIS EYEBROW AT THE CAMERA I will watch this in the cinema.
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Yeah, the kid behind Axe Cop can probably come up with a more sensical plot than what we're likely to see here.
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Ridley, just NO. Alien and Aliens: a competent horror, and a competent actioner. We do NOT need anything else.

NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

I don't know what's more depressing: that the former auteurs of old are selling out, or that they feel the need to do it to their own franchises, tainting the image even more...

Oh yeah, and Carpenter considering The Thing sequel still. Let's just keep raping decent cinema, eh?
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