Blast hits New York oil plant

Post by **Colonel Olrik** » 2003-02-21 11:20am

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2788245.stm

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2003-02-21 11:28am

Just a quick note on an semi-related topic

Remeber how I said letting Saddam sitting next to the Oil Field with Nukes would be bad as he could wipe out Middle East Oil Production at any time?

Just ONE tanker is destroyed and ONE plant paritally ruined and we here this

Oil prices rose by almost a dollar per barrel on world markets after news of the blast.

One whole doller, For somthing that represtents roughly .04% of Production Capablity, Remeber the Gas lines of years past caused by a 1% loss of Oil Production, think what a 7%-11% loss would do

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-02-21 11:33am

Holy shit that can't be good news.

Alferd Packer · Post by **Alferd Packer** » 2003-02-21 12:21pm

That is possibly the worst map of New York I've ever seen. "Kings?" What the hell is "Kings?"

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-02-21 01:02pm

I do not mean this to be taken humorously by any stretch of the imagination, but I wonder how many people had a heart attack when they heard that explosion.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-02-21 02:04pm

I believe there were a few heart-attack deaths many years ago when a CAF pilot went supersonic over Toronto's east-end suburbs (needless to say, he landed to face some rather irritated superior officers). 911 was jammed with calls by idiots who thought the nuclear power plant had exploded.

TrailerParkJawa · Post by **TrailerParkJawa** » 2003-02-21 02:06pm

What is it about a loud noise that triggers a heart attack? Is it being suddenly startled or the unwarranted panic some people experience?

ie) Thinking the nuclear plant exploded vs being startled.

Post by **fgalkin** » 2003-02-21 02:18pm

I could actually see the smoke out of my window.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-02-21 02:37pm

What often forgotten with Iraq is that most of the refineries and wells aren’t even in service, Iraqi production is only something like 20% of capacity because of sanctions limiting exports. Of course oil prices are not governed by logic of supply, but rather solely by how much the demand will pay. One barge and offloading point are utterly insignificant.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-02-21 02:41pm

TrailerParkJawa wrote:What is it about a loud noise that triggers a heart attack? Is it being suddenly startled or the unwarranted panic some people experience?

ie) Thinking the nuclear plant exploded vs being startled.

It depends on the person's condition, panicking or being startled increases your blood pressure, which can cause an attack. The absolute noise level doesn't matter very much, just there tolerances. In 1991 a number of Israeli's died of heart attacks during the Scud attack despite being nowhere near the impacts.

Post by **Dalton** » 2003-02-21 04:15pm

Alferd Packer wrote:That is possibly the worst map of New York I've ever seen. "Kings?" What the hell is "Kings?"

An alternate name for Brooklyn. Kings county, Queens county.

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2003-02-21 05:39pm

My dad's done work in that plant. I think he's actually worked in that tank farm by the barge docks.

Enlightenment · Post by **Enlightenment** » 2003-02-21 05:41pm

Ordinary industrial accident? Islam showing its peaceful nature again? Or the brownshirts blowing something up with the hope of blaming it on the Iraqis?

Time will tell...

Tragic · Post by **Tragic** » 2003-02-21 05:50pm

Is it just me or these days everything that happens people think its terrorist. I understand it cause of 9/11. But come on. People need to calm down

Post by **Dalton** » 2003-02-21 06:42pm

Enlightenment wrote:Islam showing its peaceful nature again?

That's right! Because all Muslims are potential terrorists!

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2003-02-21 07:29pm

Enlightenment wrote:Ordinary industrial accident? Islam showing its peaceful nature again? Or the brownshirts blowing something up with the hope of blaming it on the Iraqis?

Time will tell...

Oh for Chrissakes...it's a goddamn oil refinery. You move enough volitaile liquid around, eventually something bad is going to happen.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2003-02-21 07:31pm

Oh for Chrissakes...it's a goddamn oil refinery.

Auctaly no according to CS its not even Refinery, rather just an Oil Storage Fallicility

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-02-21 07:39pm

Like everyone else here i`m asking what the fuck went wrong.

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2003-02-21 10:12pm

Montcalm wrote:Like everyone else here i`m asking what the fuck went wrong.

Gasoline vapors were probably accidentily ignited while they were transfering the fuel. They're supposed to ground all their equipment so static electricity can't cause an accident like that, but when you're moving gasoline in huge volumes, nothing is totally certain.