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Immortal jelllyfish

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The eggs develop in gonads of female medusae, which are located in the walls of the manubrium (stomach). Mature eggs are presumably spawned and fertilized in the sea by sperm produced and released by male medusae, as is the case for most hydromedusae, although the related species Turritopsis rubra seems to retain fertilized eggs until the planula stage[9]. Fertilized eggs develop into planula larvae, which settle onto the sea floor (or even the rich marine communities that live on floating docks), and develop into polyp colonies (hydroids). The hydroids bud new jellyfishes, which are released at about 1 mm in size and then grow and feed in the plankton, becoming sexually mature after a few weeks (the exact duration depends on the ocean temperature; at 20 °C (68 °F) it is 25 to 30 days and at 22 °C (72 °F) it is 18 to 22 days).[3]

[edit] Biological immortality
Most jellyfish species have a relatively fixed life span, which varies by species from hours to many months (long-lived mature jellyfish spawn every day or night [the time is also rather fixed and species-specific][12]). The medusa of Turritopsis nutricula is the only form known to have developed the ability to return to a polyp state, by a specific transformation process that requires the presence of certain cell types (tissue from both the jellyfish bell surface and the circulatory canal system). Careful laboratory experiments have revealed that all stages of the medusae, from newly released to fully mature individuals, can transform back into polyps.[3] The transforming medusa is characterized first by deterioration of the bell and tentacles, with subsequent growth of a perisarc sheet (see hydroid) and stolons, and finally feeding polyps. Polyps further multiply by growing additional stolons, branches and then polyps, to form colonial hydroids. This ability to reverse the life cycle (in response to adverse conditions) is probably unique in the animal kingdom, and allows the jellyfish to bypass death, rendering Turritopsis nutricula potentially biologically immortal. Studies in the laboratory showed that 100% of specimens could revert to the polyp stage, but so far the process has not been observed in nature, in part because the process is quite rapid and field observations at the right moment in time are unlikely.[3] In spite of this remarkable ability, most Turritopsis medusae are likely to fall victim to the general hazards of life as plankton, including being eaten by other animals, or succumbing to disease.
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Hmm, reminds me of that Benjamin Button story that Mark Twain wrote. Definitely an oddity, but then again, perhaps there is and entire group of creatures with similar life cycles that live down there.
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It would be an incredibly useful ability to genetically engineer into human beings.
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Without reading the article, I'm going to guess Turritopsis N. This was news years ago, but it's still a fascinating example of what primitive life can get away with, biologically speaking. I'm generally of the opinion that some turtles' ability to avoid aging is more impressive.
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Sarevok wrote:It would be an incredibly useful ability to genetically engineer into human beings.
Actually, no.
The best way to immortality is still being a simple lifeform. Humans aren't a simple lifeform. You just can't take a jellyfish gene and BAM, immortality.
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Also, this ability, even if we did have it, would require us to somehow regress to a fetal stage of development and start over. There are so many problems with that that it's hard to know where to start...
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That's not even you, that's just your meats.

Lagmonster is right, sea turtle immortality is better. Why? Because sea turtles eat immortal jellyfish. :P

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Sarevok wrote:It would be an incredibly useful ability to genetically engineer into human beings.
Ugh, if anything the world needs is more human population. I read another article today (no english scource or I'd posted it) saying the human population rises with 158 netto every minute (with 154 out of 158 coming from 3rd world countries). While the growth is expected to flatten out over the years, I can't see how this little planet can support such large population with our current technology/development levels.

Lagmonster wrote: This was news years ago
Aye, although the thing about them colonizing the world seas seems fairly new. I wonder why tough, because if they are so succesfull, why didn't they populized the world seas much sooner? Change in climate perhaps?
Lagmonster wrote: I'm generally of the opinion that some turtles' ability to avoid aging is more impressive.
Out of intrest, how?
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Shroom Man 777 wrote:That's not even you, that's just your meats.
Good point.

Sure, a larval form of you would have the same DNA. But you wouldn't have had the experiences, thoughts, most of what makes you you. It's a form of death. Unless you believe in a soul, but even then...it's not really immortality as most people understand it, it's more like reincarnation.
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wautd wrote:Aye, although the thing about them colonizing the world seas seems fairly new. I wonder why tough, because if they are so succesfull, why didn't they populized the world seas much sooner? Change in climate perhaps?
From what I understand, overfishing has wiped out the competition and now jellyfish and squid populations are exploding, filling up the niches left behind.
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Darmalus wrote:From what I understand, overfishing has wiped out the competition and now jellyfish and squid populations are exploding, filling up the niches left behind.
Well, that's really not a big deal, I already prefer Calamari.
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spartasman wrote:Hmm, reminds me of that Benjamin Button story that Mark Twain wrote. Definitely an oddity, but then again, perhaps there is and entire group of creatures with similar life cycles that live down there.
Uh, what? That was written by F Scott Fitzgerald, not Mark Twain.
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Shroom Man 777 wrote:(Why/How do turtles live so long anyway?)
Turtles' entire reproductive strategy is about living long and slow. That shell is expensive to produce, so turtles take a very long time to mature. Decades, in some cases. Turtle eggs suffer predation, as do juvenile turtles. The adults, on the other hand, are protected from everything but the smartest and strongest predators by that shell. So, unlike most animals, evolutionary success favors turtles that live a really, really long time; producing clutch after clutch of eggs. In fact, the longer a turtle lives, the better its success rate becomes at choosing and constructing nests that minimize losses of turtle eggs to predation.

To that end . . . Evidence suggests that some species of turtles don't seem to physically age. What tends to kill them are predation (early on,) diseases (which seem to kill turtles in equal numbers across all age brackets,) accidents (and humans provide a source of accidental turtle death that natural selection just hadn't taken into account . . . i.e. cars,) and poor planning (pick a bad spot to winter over, well, that's unfortunate for you.) Their metabolisms are sluggish, so their tissues don't get bathed in as many free radicals as other animals . . . but their cellular repair machinery is quite good at mopping up whatever damage does occur.
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Losonti Tokash wrote:Uh, what? That was written by F Scott Fitzgerald, not Mark Twain.
Damn, I was almost certain it was Mark Twain, buy you are right.
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