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Okay, the thread title is mine, but you'll get the idea...
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Tokyo's oldest listed person, age 113, is missing
By Mari Yamaguchi, The Associated Press

TOKYO - A 113-year-old woman listed as Tokyo's oldest person is missing, officials said Tuesday, days after the city's oldest man was found dead and mummified.

Fusa Furuya, born in July 1897, does not live at the address in the Japanese capital where she is registered and her whereabouts are unknown, Tokyo Suginami ward official Hiroshi Sugimoto said.

Her disappearance surfaced just days after the shocking discovery last week that Tokyo's oldest man, who would have been 111 years old, had actually been dead for decades.

Officials said that they had not personally contacted the two oldest people for decades, despite their listing as the longest-living in the city. They apparently found out that the man was dead, and Furuya missing, when they began updating their records ahead of a holiday in honour of the elderly that is to be observed next month.

Officials visited Furuya's apartment last Friday, but her 79-year-old daughter said she has never lived there.

The daughter, whose name was not disclosed, told officials she was not aware of her mother's registration at that address and said she thought her mother was just outside Tokyo with her younger brother, with whom she has lost touch.

But when officials checked that address they found a vacant lot.

Officials are also looking for a 106-year-old man who is missing in Nagoya, central Japan, Kyodo News agency reported. The Asahi newspaper said three more centenarians were unaccounted for.

The number of centenarians in Japan has been rising for decades.

Japan has 40,399 people aged 100 or older, including 4,800 in Tokyo, according to an annual health ministry report last year marking a Sept. 21 holiday honouring the elderly. Each centenarian receives a letter and a gift from a local government office — usually by mail.

In the earlier case, police are investigating the family of the man found dead and mummified on suspicion of abandonment and swindling his pension money. Sogen Kato is believed to have died 32 years ago after he had retreated to his bedroom, saying he wanted to be a living Buddha.

Health and Welfare Minister Akira Nagatsuma has urged officials to find a better way to monitor centenarians, but local officials say it is hard to keep track because their families are often reluctant to receive official visits.

Many also send their elderly relatives to nursing homes without doing the proper paperwork.
All I can really say is 'Wow'.

Okay, now that I've said that.

I have to wonder how wide spread this problem really is in Japan (and globally). It's enough to make you want to require periodic 'check ups' on the elderly to make sure they are still alive, and are being well cared for.

And my mother wonders why when she said to me "Please make sure I'm never old and alone" (after seeing an exhibition at the Royal Ontario Museum a few weeks ago) why I said "Don't worry, I plan to put you in a home were you will be well looked after and monitored, even If I have to drag the entire planet into court to do it."

It wasn't that I was trying to be mean or anything, I just I don't want to see my parents end up as a "Been dead for decades, family collected benefits" newspaper article.
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I just bought a new larger place in part so that my folks have the option of moving in with me, at least for whatever time they have before they reach the point where they both need facility-type care. I don't know what that's going to be like, and I suspect I won't entirely enjoy it, but it seems the proper thing, to do.
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And my mother wonders why when she said to me "Please make sure I'm never old and alone" (after seeing an exhibition at the Royal Ontario Museum a few weeks ago) why I said "Don't worry, I plan to put you in a home were you will be well looked after and monitored, even If I have to drag the entire planet into court to do it."

It wasn't that I was trying to be mean or anything, I just I don't want to see my parents end up as a "Been dead for decades, family collected benefits" newspaper article.
I understand where you're coming from with that, but in Asian society (or at least Chinese society) it's considered bad form for the children to put their parents up in a nursing home rather than caring for them themselves, and your reason is going to be considered a somewhat weak/selfish justification...
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Respect for one's elders is built into the very languages of East Asia. You wouldn't go up a grandparent and say 'Wassup' in any culture, but I think it's even more frowned upon in say, Japan.

And sending parents off to a nursing home would be considered disrespectful, although perhaps centenarians would be a special case because they need round-the-clock care. I suspect though the majority of children still look after their parents personally.
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AniThyng wrote:
Solauren wrote:
And my mother wonders why when she said to me "Please make sure I'm never old and alone" (after seeing an exhibition at the Royal Ontario Museum a few weeks ago) why I said "Don't worry, I plan to put you in a home were you will be well looked after and monitored, even If I have to drag the entire planet into court to do it."

It wasn't that I was trying to be mean or anything, I just I don't want to see my parents end up as a "Been dead for decades, family collected benefits" newspaper article.
I understand where you're coming from with that, but in Asian society (or at least Chinese society) it's considered bad form for the children to put their parents up in a nursing home rather than caring for them themselves, and your reason is going to be considered a somewhat weak/selfish justification...
Oh, my parents will not be going into nursing homes or the like until they have to. However, I have relatives that think 'oh, I know better' when they don't.... "Oh, she doesn't need 24/7 care, she'll be fine at my house watching TV...."
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My mother, 73, has not only picked out which Nursing Home she wants to be placed in, but already has her funeral paid for and her name and birthdate on the gravemarker she'll share with my dad.
One reason I don't go to dad's grave, honestly. Kinda weird to see mom's name on there, just missing the Date of Death.


Either way... Japan is losing a lot of face over this, especially in the Asian community. Wanna bet the Chinese and Koreans are going to be checking up on their own Centenarians, just to say "Here are ours!"
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Where are you hearing that, LadyTevar? (re: Japan losing face -- in which Asian community?)
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LadyTevar wrote:One reason I don't go to dad's grave, honestly. Kinda weird to see mom's name on there, just missing the Date of Death.
Kind of weird?? I'm imagining the grim reaper standing patiently next to it with a hammer and chisel!
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tim31 wrote:
LadyTevar wrote:One reason I don't go to dad's grave, honestly. Kinda weird to see mom's name on there, just missing the Date of Death.
Kind of weird?? I'm imagining the grim reaper standing patiently next to it with a hammer and chisel!
Yeah, that image is in my head now, thank you.
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