ACLU analysis of the so-called 'Patriot II' act

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-02-21 01:39am

http://www.aclu.org/SafeandFree/Safeand ... 1835&c=206

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2003-02-21 02:32am

Vympel wrote:http://www.aclu.org/SafeandFree/Safeand ... 1835&c=206

I read this and I cannot help but hear the Imperial March.

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2003-02-21 02:52am

if this goes through, Im moving to europe, and starting my conquer world plan from there.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-02-21 07:46am

That's nothing compared to their plans for global mind control.

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2003-02-21 03:24pm

right, time for the moon colony.

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2003-02-21 07:19pm

Simon H.Johansen wrote:That's nothing compared to their plans for global mind control.

*Wraps tinfoil around head*
I knew it! the GPS system is part of the US plans for global dominance But I am on to them! I will make this public! I will take this to the world, they will prise my keyboard from my cold, dead, sticky hands!

Nathan F · Post by **Nathan F** » 2003-02-21 07:42pm

Really though, while, I do not agree with alot of the PATRIOT acts, the ACLU isn't exactly a wonderful source of analysis on a controversial subject. They haven't been above twisting facts to their own means. I suggest you find a secondary source before you start making decision based solely on this.

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2003-02-21 07:47pm

NF_Utvol wrote:Really though, while, I do not agree with alot of the PATRIOT acts, the ACLU isn't exactly a wonderful source of analysis on a controversial subject. They haven't been above twisting facts to their own means. I suggest you find a secondary source before you start making decision based solely on this.

So I can take the tinfoil of my head then?

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2003-02-21 07:55pm

Has the ACLU always been like this? Everytime I read something from their site it always reminds me of those extreme conspiracy theorist websites like ......

www.whatreallyhappened.com <---- This websites existence pisses me off.

Anyway, it just seems as though the ACLU is the only recognized and accepted conspiracy theorist website........

Nathan F · Post by **Nathan F** » 2003-02-21 07:57pm

The ACLU is on the same league as PETA, far as I know. More power than a group of their IQ really deserves.

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2003-02-21 08:00pm

NF_Utvol wrote:The ACLU is on the same league as PETA, far as I know. More power than a group of their IQ really deserves.

No shit......I honestly can't even read crap like that all the way though.

I got to the second description of the Patriot Act II, and just couldn't deal with it anymore.

Post by **fgalkin** » 2003-02-21 08:09pm

Stripping even native-born Americans of all of the rights of United States citizenship if they provide support to unpopular organizations labeled as terrorist by our government, even if they support only the lawful activities of such organizations, allowing them to be indefinitely imprisoned in their own country as undocumented aliens. (Section 501)
Creating 15 new death penalties, including a new death penalty for “terrorism” under a definition which could cover acts of protest such as those used by Operation Rescue or protesters at Vieques Island, Puerto Rico, if death results. (Section 411)
Further criminalizing association – without any intent to commit specific terrorism crimes – by broadening the crime of providing material support to terrorism, even if support is not given to any organization listed as a terrorist organization by the government. (Section 402)
Permitting arrests and extraditions of Americans to any foreign country – including those whose governments do not respect the rule of law or human rights – in the absence of a Senate-approved treaty and without allowing an American judge to consider the extraditing country’s legal system or human rights record

Why not just bring the HUAC back, then?

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Nathan F · Post by **Nathan F** » 2003-02-21 08:11pm

Again, I repeat myself, take this with a grain of salt. Read my posting above.

Post by **fgalkin** » 2003-02-21 08:15pm

NF_Utvol wrote:The ACLU is on the same league as PETA, far as I know. More power than a group of their IQ really deserves.

When you will have proof that ACLU is linked to domestic terrosrism, then I will agree with you that it is in the same league as PETA.

While their views are a bit leftist on some matters, I actually agree with them on some.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Hamel · Post by **Hamel** » 2003-02-21 08:55pm

The ACLU kicks serious ass.

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