What if the Empire invaded modern day Earth?

[Star Wars 888]

(note: no, I did not copy this from another forum, that was me that made it)

An Imperial invasion force consisting of:

Vader as the commander
500,000 stormtroopers
1000 AT-STs
100 AT-ATs
100 tie fighters

Invades Earth. To be fair, the countries of Earth unite together in an organized fighting force.

The invaders have:

enough supplies to last them from North to South America
as much knowledge on the world's militaries as is available to the public

They start off in the middle of South America

No nukes or other "weapons of mass destruction" allowed.

[Srelex]

Erm...I don't that would suffice to occupy the world. And if the Imps have anything in orbit, then game over. And why do they have such a tiny portion of the available types of forces anyway? Where are Juggernauts? Repulsor tanks? Bombers? Etc.

[Star Wars 888]

Erm...I don't that would suffice to occupy the world. And if the Imps have anything in orbit, then game over. And why do they have such a tiny portion of the available types of forces anyway? Where are Juggernauts? Repulsor tanks? Bombers? Etc.

To add in star destroyers or a significant air or space force would be a spite, hence why the invasion force is so small and relatively limited.

[Srelex]

Have they got any sort of transport ships?

[Star Wars 888]

Have they got any sort of transport ships?

Well, AT-ATs are armored and super powerful transports, although to get past the Ocean they'd have to capture ships.

I'd say that Earth repels the invasion though. Logistical problems will hamper the invasion force and Earth would have a huge numerical advantage, air superiority and a greater industrial base.

[Stark]

Are you saying a small army of barely-mechanised infantry with no support can't do much? Amazing!

[Srelex]

Seeing as you basically dumped them in the middle of nowhere with such a limited force, I'm not surprised.

[Ghost Rider]

They won't occupy, but they can make it so the Earth is smoking pile of rubble given they have ships that can reach orbital levels and have KT weaponry.

So yes, we're fucked.

[Stark]

Yeah 'air superiority' against TIEs is a pretty funny concept. Assuming their fuel holds out they can just strafe population centres until everyone surrenders (frankly the idea that everyone woudl unite is childish anyway).

[Iosef Cross]

A single AT-AT is probably more powerful than all of Earth's militaries put together. So, even without starships, they could turn earth into a smoking pile of rubble.

[Stark]

After they leave 95% of their force somewhere to get bombed to death, anyway.

[Iosef Cross]

Yeah 'air superiority' against TIEs is a pretty funny concept. Assuming their fuel holds out they can just strafe population centres until everyone surrenders

Agree. We couldn't do anything to the average wars fighter or tank.

(frankly the idea that everyone woudl unite is childish anyway).

That depends on the situation. If a single evil entity wished to conquer Earth, it is probable that all of the nations in the world would unite to defeat it.

[Srelex]

A single AT-AT is probably more powerful than all of Earth's militaries put together. So, even without starships, they could turn earth into a smoking pile of rubble.

But it's not very mobile, as others have put it more colorfully. And I'm sure that enough spam of explosives would eventually topple it over just by destroying the ground it's standing on.

[Stark]

Why? If they land in Brazil, say, Brazil can't get rid of them without being utterly destroyed before anyone else can possibly help them. What possible motive would they have then to oppose them? They'd just surrender to the spacemen and wait to be 'liberated'.

[Iosef Cross]

After they leave 95% of their force somewhere to get bombed to death, anyway.

It is probable that stormtrooper blasters have greater firepower than modern artillery pieces. So, even without At-At's, they would have serious firepower by modern Earth standards.

[Stark]

And how are they going to stop guided munions from 30kms away with rifles?

[Iosef Cross]

A single AT-AT is probably more powerful than all of Earth's militaries put together. So, even without starships, they could turn earth into a smoking pile of rubble.

But it's not very mobile, as others have put it more colorfully. And I'm sure that enough spam of explosives would eventually topple it over just by destroying the ground it's standing on.

Floating tanks wouldn't suffer from this problem. If they planned to invade earth, they would notice that At-Ats suffer from this particular weakness.

[Srelex]

Bwaah? Let's not go overboard; they're probably on the level of grenade launchers at best.

EDIT:The blasters, that is.

[Ghost Rider]

To be honest, this scenario reminds me of any of the Earth versus Trek/Bab5/BSG and other such stupidity. While they are lightweights when balanced against some of the more insane universes; we are still talking about science fiction that has orbital one man fighter craft, with weaponry on with multi-ton TNT/KT/MT per laser shot.

What is modern man to do? Wait until they land? We're fucked unless it's a summer blackbuster and the aliens become so fucking stupid as to expose their belly and paint the target on their ass to show us where to plant our newest super device.

[Srelex]

A single AT-AT is probably more powerful than all of Earth's militaries put together. So, even without starships, they could turn earth into a smoking pile of rubble.

But it's not very mobile, as others have put it more colorfully. And I'm sure that enough spam of explosives would eventually topple it over just by destroying the ground it's standing on.

Floating tanks wouldn't suffer from this problem.

Yes, but the OP didn't give them anyway.

[Stark]

Since they only have 100 transports, they can only protect say 5000-10000 guys from artillery without tasking heaps of TIEs to spot them and blast them, and the TIEs are their most useful political tool. Whereever they go and whatever they do it's either at walking pace or with a tiny fraction of their manpower.

[Iosef Cross]

Why? If they land in Brazil, say, Brazil can't get rid of them without being utterly destroyed before anyone else can possibly help them. What possible motive would they have then to oppose them? They'd just surrender to the spacemen and wait to be 'liberated'.

As if it would make a difference for them if they landed on Brazil, or the US, or Australia, or Europe, they would be all insignificant.

Brazil's military budget is 27 billion dollars, Uk and France's military budget are 69-67 billion dollars. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... penditures

While weak compared to the military of UK, to the eyes of the Galatic Empire, Brazil or UK wouldn't make ANY difference.

Or the difference that 25 spearmen and 65 spearmen would make to the military of the US today.

[Stark]

You're not paying attention, shithead. The OP says 'South America'. Brazil is in South America. You said everyone would unite, and I gave a solid reason why this is unlikely. Why should the guys most at risk of destruction join some ridiculous 'united front' when they will be the first to suffer?

There's this thing that exists called 'politics'.

[Iosef Cross]

Since they only have 100 transports, they can only protect say 5000-10000 guys from artillery without tasking heaps of TIEs to spot them and blast them, and the TIEs are their most useful political tool. Whereever they go and whatever they do it's either at walking pace or with a tiny fraction of their manpower.

Yeah, the op pretty much threw 95% of their manpower unaided by standard equipment. However, we do not know what artillery they would have, if they had the standard complement of heavy artillery that an imperial division had they would have enormous firepower.

[Iosef Cross]

You said:

Why? If they land in Brazil, say, Brazil can't get rid of them without being utterly destroyed before anyone else can possibly help them. What possible motive would they have then to oppose them? They'd just surrender to the spacemen and wait to be 'liberated'.

Well, you could substitute Brazil for any country in the world that the outcome would be the same. Since the superiority in firepower would be practically infinite, the entire world would surrender simultaneously.