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LAAT vs shuttles

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The LAAT, or Low-Altitude Assault Transport, are those flying things seen at the battle of Geonosis. They have shields, ball turrets, and missiles.

Shuttle specs vary. Possible features include warp drive, shields, and phasers rated to about 4GW.

Just to save time, you can throw the Federation's entire atmosphere-capable arsenal at the LAAT. This includes, but is not limited to: shuttles, runabouts, the Delta Flyer, hoppers, tac fighters, peregrines, and starships (with reduced capabilities).

What does it take to kill the LAAT?
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The onboard Clone Troopers hand weapons could likely down shuttles. The dozen plus 100-kiloton missiles would rape shuttles and fighters. Runabouts would have something of a better chance.
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Umm...a shitload of luck on the Fed side and an equal load of incopetence on the part of the clones. Seriously, though, since the LAATs seem to be atmoshpere-bound, I think that any ST ship has an advantage. However, going into space is akin to fleeing, so that advantage is useless. If the LAAT's turrets are somehow taken out, it'll be a straight dogfight, which favors the reflexes and instincts of trained clone troopers. If the turrets are not taken out, the ST ships won't do jack.
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As a Enginner my assesement is that the LAAT wopuld win. It has a better control interface(Joysticks), Weaponry, and is actually designed for operating in an atmosphere. While all Star Fleet shuttle uses a keypad interfacewhich is insane for a dopfight. the LAAT would be on the Feddy's Tail before he can type in the movement command.
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A shuttle could just fire at the LAAT from space. One torpedoe should destroy it.
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Shadow wrote:A shuttle could just fire at the LAAT from space. One torpedoe should destroy it.
And how is it suppost to hit it?
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Isolder74 wrote:
Shadow wrote:A shuttle could just fire at the LAAT from space. One torpedoe should destroy it.
And how is it suppost to hit it?
It can't. Trek torps have never shown the ability to hit something with the speeds LAATs show. Also, since clone troopers are the predecessors to stormtroopers, one can assume that their combat skills are equal to stormtroopers. Possibly more so, since they've been raised from birth to fight. As such, since a stormtrooper was able to hit R2-D2 from across the clearing in ROTJ, hitting the large photorps shouldn't be difficult.
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Hmm, but who says the LAAT's shields won't withstand the torp?
And shuttles carry torps???
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Can the feds have an intrepid class starship, that can land, and might be able to destroy an LAAT.
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure an Intrepid could take out the LAAT. Still, using a starship against your opponent's air cavalry seems pretty cheap to me. Is there anything you can think of that's a little lighter? A runabout, perhaps?
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no, these are feds remember, they can't hit a barn door at point blank range without a computer :D
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Re: LAAT vs shuttles

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Raxmei wrote:Shuttle specs vary. Possible features include warp drive, shields, and phasers rated to about 4GW.
I recall that even the Galaxy-class cruisers had phaser cannons rated at only 1 GW (reaction with shields and certain types of matter magnify the destructive energy). Please correct me if I'm mistaken.
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Raxmei wrote:Yeah, I'm pretty sure an Intrepid could take out the LAAT. Still, using a starship against your opponent's air cavalry seems pretty cheap to me. Is there anything you can think of that's a little lighter? A runabout, perhaps?
The smallest thing that has a realistic prayer is a Defiant firing time fused torpedoes likes there's no tomorrow, cause if they don’t there certainly won't be one for them..

And even then, a couple Space Hinds still could defeat it given the kiloton photon torpedo calculations.
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A 'small phaser bank' is rated at 4.2 GW, according to canon dialog. If we generously assume that this applies to shuttles and not capital ships, this gives us shuttle phaser output. Keep in mind that a 900 MW pulse can blow through the shields of a runabout. Any weapon on a LAAT should be able to destroy any Trek shuttle and a LAAT should be able to absorb the entire weapons loadout of any Trek shuttle-sized vehicle with the possible exception of Runabouts and similarly-sized craft since they carry photon torpedoes.

Why are we comparing an atmospheric troopship to FTL spacecraft?
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Because that's what it takes to beat SW aircraft.
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Its always fun to try new approches

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Really now? New approaches.....I've got it! The most gripping battle of all time, full of action, adventure, and a whole lotta destruction.....ready......wait for it........TA DA!

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Speeking of Runabouts, what's the isoton rating on those micro-torps they fire? Can't be too large, since they're less then two feet long (I think).
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Post by Mr Bean »

Negtro-14 contains enough firepower that a 3X5 Box is enough to destroy a shield generator
Just becaue its small does not mean its not dangerous(Then agian its a SW explosive so did I just contradict myself?)

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Completely depends on the shuttlecraft in question. 99% of any of the Type-series shuttlecraft will be taken out with ease given the lack of combat purpose. Things get somewhat more interesting with the Type-10 shuttle (Defiant shuttle) because you can spot the phaser arrays on it. The Delta Flyer, Venture, and Runabout are not qualified at Shuttles because they are virtualy self sufficent short ranged space craft.

FYI, at one point Worf was piloting a shuttle that survived at least one direct hit from a photon torpedo. The shields of the shuttles aren't exactly weak, but their combat capability (phasers and combat AI) is questionable.
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A fresh fully functional Runabout (which IIRC are stronger then shuttles) lost its shields and was knocked out of orbit by one 900 megawatt shot. All weapons on a LAAT are superior to that. IIRC a LAAT took one hit from a Genosian fighter, which guns are 1e13 J or about 2 kilotons.
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A Type-9 Shuttle fires a torpedo in "Counterpoint." As for accuracy, the distance is well within torpedo range. The crew appears to be unprotected, so it would not need to hit the LAAT itself.
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Well with its shields and all you don't really need all that much protection...

Unless of course you coutn clone trooper armor as protection...
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Shadow wrote:A Type-9 Shuttle fires a torpedo in "Counterpoint." As for accuracy, the distance is well within torpedo range. The crew appears to be unprotected, so it would not need to hit the LAAT itself.



1. target in Range!=able to hit target.
2. Prove the torpedo has enough power.
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1. It doesn't need to be that close.
2. According to the TMs, that torpedo would have a yield of 512 megatons, close to an LTL. Of course, even a kiliton would be enough to penetrate Clonetrooper armor.
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