Fidelity sees record number raid their 401(k)s
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Re: Fidelity sees record number raid their 401(k)s
Eh. It's not like it matters. By the time Social Security runs out, we'll be well on our way to biological immortality. Sure, I might never retire, but I'll never grow old and die, either, so it's a fair trade-off.
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Oh yeah, I can think of nothing more appealing then working forever.LionElJonson wrote:Eh. It's not like it matters. By the time Social Security runs out, we'll be well on our way to biological immortality. Sure, I might never retire, but I'll never grow old and die, either, so it's a fair trade-off.
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Ouch. I hope everything's okay.Broomstick wrote:I feel for you, I truly do. I left college during a recession (though nowhere near as bad as this one) and had a degree in the arts... it was not a good time in my life.
Now - it's 25 years later and not only do I have to support myself, I have a disabled spouse as well. It's neither bad nor worse, just different. I have some resources now I didn't back then, and some new liabilities as well.
I have to keep reminding myself that my education wasn't worthless, that the current conditions are at fault, not my interests. Of course, I'm finally coming around to pursuing alternate careers, so we'll see.
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Prove this. And prove that such technologies would be available to more than just rich, white, assholes.LionElJonson wrote:Eh. It's not like it matters. By the time Social Security runs out, we'll be well on our way to biological immortality. Sure, I might never retire, but I'll never grow old and die, either, so it's a fair trade-off.
Assuming that people were biologically immortal, they'd still need some sort of Social Security/pension/savings plan. After all, someone might want to take a break from all those centuries of toil. Or they may wish to retrain to enter a different field.
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Yeah, an eternity of saying "You want fries with that?" or working the nightshift as a self-serve gas station or 7/11....Aaron wrote:Oh yeah, I can think of nothing more appealing then working forever.LionElJonson wrote:Eh. It's not like it matters. By the time Social Security runs out, we'll be well on our way to biological immortality. Sure, I might never retire, but I'll never grow old and die, either, so it's a fair trade-off.
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Now I did a job. I got nothing but trouble since I did it, not to mention more than a few unkind words as regard to my character so let me make this abundantly clear. I do the job. And then I get paid.- Malcolm Reynolds, Captain of Serenity, which sums up my feelings regarding the lawsuit discussed here.
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Now I did a job. I got nothing but trouble since I did it, not to mention more than a few unkind words as regard to my character so let me make this abundantly clear. I do the job. And then I get paid.- Malcolm Reynolds, Captain of Serenity, which sums up my feelings regarding the lawsuit discussed here.
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Possibly.LionElJonson wrote:By the time Social Security runs out, we'll be well on our way to biological immortality. Sure, I might never retire, but I'll never grow old and die, either
If you happen to be one of the people who can afford it.
Frederick Pohl wrote a very entertaining story, The Age of Pussyfoot wherein he covered the idea of reimbursing the expense of cryonic preservation and reanimation via basically minimum-wage jobs...
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Re: Fidelity sees record number raid their 401(k)s
LionElJonson wrote:Eh. It's not like it matters. By the time Social Security runs out, we'll be well on our way to biological immortality. Sure, I might never retire, but I'll never grow old and die, either, so it's a fair trade-off.
I don't know how old you are, but from what I've seen of the quality of your posting you come across as very fucking stupid, ignorant and immature.
This is not a fucking joke, real peoples lives are being ruined by this shit; and many of us are rightly scared as fuck because we have worked and continue to be working our asses off, yet despite all our skills and hard work the future looks fucking abysmal with any real hope akin to winning the lottery. Without some major substantive reform of socio-economic policies in the US, many people are going to well and truly fucked.
Then you come dancing in here yet again with your Transhumanist wank, which, much like nanotech wankers, pisses and shits on the actual scientific and technical concepts making them seem ludicrous. It's immature wankers like you that are the ones that give a bad name to these concepts. Your knowledge of both transhumanism and the topic in this thread is demonstratively nil.
And just who says you are going to get this immortality? Why the fuck are you so deserving? What the fuck have you done that warrants it? Personnally, I can't think of anyone less deserving than little shit stains like you.
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He is obviously not out of his mother's basement yet - clearly, he has not done face slam into the real world yet.
Like most boys who are just old enough to have learned the joys of masturbation he is under the illusion that he will automatically be one of the privileged elite in the coming transhumanist future, rather than one of the impoverished masses toiling for the benefit of the immortal overlords
Frankly, if a person isn't somewhat concerned (at the very least) about the current state of the world there is something wrong with them.
Like most boys who are just old enough to have learned the joys of masturbation he is under the illusion that he will automatically be one of the privileged elite in the coming transhumanist future, rather than one of the impoverished masses toiling for the benefit of the immortal overlords
Frankly, if a person isn't somewhat concerned (at the very least) about the current state of the world there is something wrong with them.
A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory. Leonard Nimoy.
Now I did a job. I got nothing but trouble since I did it, not to mention more than a few unkind words as regard to my character so let me make this abundantly clear. I do the job. And then I get paid.- Malcolm Reynolds, Captain of Serenity, which sums up my feelings regarding the lawsuit discussed here.
If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich. - John F. Kennedy
Sam Vimes Theory of Economic Injustice
Now I did a job. I got nothing but trouble since I did it, not to mention more than a few unkind words as regard to my character so let me make this abundantly clear. I do the job. And then I get paid.- Malcolm Reynolds, Captain of Serenity, which sums up my feelings regarding the lawsuit discussed here.
If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich. - John F. Kennedy
Sam Vimes Theory of Economic Injustice
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I'm on disability from Veterans Affairs Canada, which is fairly secure and even I'm concerned. That ought to tell folks something. I'm concerned for my folks, who while secure now may not be in the future. I worry for my kids, what will we end up with when this horse shit is over?
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I try to console myself with the idea that the Great Depression and WWII were followed by some economic good times (at least for white, christian Americans - not so much for some others) but you know, the Great Depression sort of sucked, and WWII REALLY sucked - not to mention something like 50 million dead when the dust settled - and there's no guarantee all of us here now will make it through to the other end to enjoy a future prosperity. But if I didn't have some hope it would be damn hard to keep going.
A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory. Leonard Nimoy.
Now I did a job. I got nothing but trouble since I did it, not to mention more than a few unkind words as regard to my character so let me make this abundantly clear. I do the job. And then I get paid.- Malcolm Reynolds, Captain of Serenity, which sums up my feelings regarding the lawsuit discussed here.
If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich. - John F. Kennedy
Sam Vimes Theory of Economic Injustice
Now I did a job. I got nothing but trouble since I did it, not to mention more than a few unkind words as regard to my character so let me make this abundantly clear. I do the job. And then I get paid.- Malcolm Reynolds, Captain of Serenity, which sums up my feelings regarding the lawsuit discussed here.
If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich. - John F. Kennedy
Sam Vimes Theory of Economic Injustice
Re: Fidelity sees record number raid their 401(k)s
I'd be curious to see if there's been an uptake in liquor sales and suicides over the last 3 years, if people have been giving into hopelessness.Broomstick wrote:But if I didn't have some hope it would be damn hard to keep going.
But the chance of living through another Great Depression...I sure as hell never thought I'd live to see that.
In an unfortunate irony, the Boomers have come full circle. Their parents started a Depression and now they're leaving a Depression to their kids and grandchildren.This is not a fucking joke, real peoples lives are being ruined by this shit; and many of us are rightly scared as fuck because we have worked and continue to be working our asses off, yet despite all our skills and hard work the future looks fucking abysmal with any real hope akin to winning the lottery. Without some major substantive reform of socio-economic policies in the US, many people are going to well and truly fucked.
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Being a self-described Depression Baby my Mom was DI-strict about managing money, working time etc. simultaneous with being a very successful professional in her own right. Having been raised that way wasn't entirely pleasant but I guess I have to be grateful to have benefited from her experience.
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Yeah, without hope I may as well ventilate my own skull. I'm not a doom and gloom kind of guy and I know civilization will continue, probably pretty close to like it is now but its...disconcerting?Broomstick wrote:I try to console myself with the idea that the Great Depression and WWII were followed by some economic good times (at least for white, christian Americans - not so much for some others) but you know, the Great Depression sort of sucked, and WWII REALLY sucked - not to mention something like 50 million dead when the dust settled - and there's no guarantee all of us here now will make it through to the other end to enjoy a future prosperity. But if I didn't have some hope it would be damn hard to keep going.
Though I'm suddenly reminded of Oma and folks from her generation washing out ziploc bags and things because there was no cash to replace them. Ah well, not at the point of eating tulip bulbs yet.
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