Twilight eclipse

[Steve]

Since it seems to be a vibrant discussion and it involves something Fantasy, I've brought it over here.

You brought it into the light of day? Then why isn't it burning up?

*shrugs GIR-style*

[Einzige]

Bram Stoker's Dracula was the Twilight of its day, and about as accurate to the vampire mythos as well.

While you're right about Dracula not adhering to the 'traditional' vampire mythos (either folkloric or as embodied in earlier literary accounts of vampirism ala Sheridan Le Fanu), Bram Stoker's Count has little in the way of angst or any real deep motivation at all. Just about the only corollary I can see are his reminisces about House Dracula during his first meeting with Harker in the library. Beyond that the Count has precious little characterization either way and is played relatively 'straight'.

[Temujin]

Bram Stoker's Dracula was the Twilight of its day, and about as accurate to the vampire mythos as well.

While you're right about Dracula not adhering to the 'traditional' vampire mythos (either folkloric or as embodied in earlier literary accounts of vampirism ala Sheridan Le Fanu), Bram Stoker's Count has little in the way of angst or any real deep motivation at all. Just about the only corollary I can see are his reminisces about House Dracula during his first meeting with Harker in the library. Beyond that the Count has precious little characterization either way and is played relatively 'straight'.

Did you have the pull the stake out, now this thread has come back from the dead!

But yeah, sadly showing emotion too often now equates to being emo, when it traditionally only applies to whinny white middle class high school kids who wouldn't know the first thing about hardship. Kinda like the Twilight kids and their legions of followers. I certainly wouldn't even begin to consider Dracula as angsty, especially since he has been through some real shit; i.e., a bloody war, losing his wife, etc.

[Einzige]

Did you have the pull the stake out, now this thread has come back from the dead!

Sorry about that. I felt like talking vampires and didn't want to create my own thread. >.>

But yeah, sadly showing emotion too often now equates to being emo, when it traditionally only applies to whinny white middle class high school kids who wouldn't know the first thing about hardship. Kinda like the Twilight kids and their legions of followers. I certainly wouldn't even begin to consider Dracula as angsty, especially since he has been through some real shit; i.e., a bloody war, losing his wife, etc.

Hell, all that business about Elizabetta wasn't added until the 1991 film version. The novel itself provides precisely zero insight into the Count's backstory, and barely touches on his tenuous connection to the Székelys.

At any rate, what I really wanted to say is: there's no 'set' way to a vampire to act. The angsty interpretation is a legitimate one, but is in my opinion overdone and has little connection to the source material. Dracula was portrayed as a heinous monster, part Svengali, part Jack The Ripper, and operates best when kept to those parameters. The story should never have become about the vampire himself in the first place.

[Temujin]

What gets me about the angsty vampires is that you think they would either get over it or allow themselves to be destroyed, either by suicide or having someone kill them. Not walk around moaning and groaning about it for hundreds of years.

[Majin Gojira]

Which makes you wonder what kind of person would mope around and do nothing for that amount of time.

And who would really want to be around them AT ALL.

[Temujin]

Which makes you wonder what kind of person would mope around and do nothing for that amount of time.

And who would really want to be around them AT ALL.

I remember some discussion on the Bram Stoker's Dracula when it came out (I think it was in a magazine), and the author was talking about the character of Dracula, saying how has traveled the world, learned numerous languages, and amassed a great deal of knowledge. Granted it was probably more just this guys take on the character, but it makes a lot of sense.

Hell, at least Lestat was a rock star. Edward Cullen just keeps going back to high school, I guess he's to proud to go for a GED.