40K Terminators in a Imperial star destroyer

[Interlord1]

Okay, I wondered what would happen if a squad of 10 Warhammer 40,000 Terminators somehow got onto a Imperial star destroyer, which had all the resources and soldiers onboard as they normally do. The terminators get to pick 2 of there regular wargear (Chainfist, Assault cannon, Cyclone missile launcher, Heavy Flamer) and the star destroyer is a regular star destroyer. They are tasked with disabling the star destroyer.

My opinion is that they would plow through the star destroyer with minimal losses, but considering that i'm not as well versed in Star wars as I am in 40K I could be wrong. I'd like to hear your peoples opinions, please.

[Srelex]

The Star Destroyer carries aboard it a number of AT-ATs, blastboats, and landing craft. If the Imps manage to get the Terminators into the hangar bay, I'm sure they could use those on them--how could a Terminator stand up against fire from a TIE or walker?

[Chris OFarrell]

They loose.

They will make an almighty mess of the area they land, but in the end the Stormtroopers will simply pull out heavier and heavier weapons until they bring out things like portable missile launchers and heavy blaster cannons, man portable proton torpedo launchers and the like that will put the Terminators down. It'll cost them, no mistake, but ten Terminators are far too few.

[Serafina]

Actually, it mostly depends on the tactics the Terminators use.
If they stay in the narrow corridors and assault vulnerable points such as the reactor or the bridge or other vital parts, then they could make it. A standard stormtrooper won't do much against them, and Terminator armor can withstand anti-tank level firepower in case they actually get some shots off.

The situation is variable enough for any outcome, but i think the Terminators have a good chance. The Stormtroopers can not bring their mass to bear agains them, and only limited heavy firepower, which might not be enough. And vehicles are right out, unless the Terminators are terminally stupid.

[Interlord1]

I'm guessing that the fact that Terminators already soak up Tank shells and anti-tank missiles doesn't count? Then again, I'm not sure if I should count the rules from the board game as they might only be there for balancing...

[Srelex]

It's generally not a good idea to use tabletop mechanics; otherwise, we may as well conclude that a guy with a rocket launcher can miss a tank ten feet away, or that a Guardsman can shrug off bolter shells.

[Interlord1]

Yeah, i'm pretty sure I had a guardsman that ate a lascannon bolt once.

Edit: Oh, and I have a drunk guardsman in control of the melta gun, He misses every important shot.

[Serafina]

It's generally not a good idea to use tabletop mechanics; otherwise, we may as well conclude that a guy with a rocket launcher can miss a tank ten feet away, or that a Guardsman can shrug off bolter shells.

Except that the fluff also states that Terminator armors can withstand most AT-weapons and that only massive heavy fire (dozens of rockets) or stuff like meltas can seriously harm them.
So it's not based on Tabletop-mechanics.

[Srelex]

Except that the fluff also states that Terminator armors can withstand most AT-weapons and that only massive heavy fire (dozens of rockets) or stuff like meltas can seriously harm them.
So it's not based on Tabletop-mechanics.

I know, I just thought that he was using tabletop rules. Maybe I got his wording wrong.

[Interlord1]

Oh, i was talking about the tabletop game, I knew that Terminators could stand a large ammount of punishment but I couldn't remember where I heard that stated and I like to have proof to back up my statements.

[Stark]

Locate termies.

Blow hole in floor revealing massive void space.

Say 'lol'.

Make hurtful remarks about small vehicles with no agility.

[Interlord1]

Can they blow holes into space like that? I'd assume that there suits are vacumn sealed but again i'm not sure.

[Bob the Gunslinger]

Where do they appear on the Star Destroyer, and how much information do they have about its layout?

[Stark]

Can they blow holes into space like that? I'd assume that there suits are vacumn sealed but again i'm not sure.

The hole doesn't need to be into space. Terminators can't jump. Of course the suits are sealed against vacuum.

Your suggestion is pretty funny though. Re-route an elevator and have a ship outside blast them = Lols.

[Interlord1]

Okay, the Imperial starships massed together to defeat an imperial star destroyer (Not sure how they compare so i'll say it takes about 30 Imperial starships to take down the shields of it). They take scans of the star destroyer and get there Psykers to decide a good location. They teleport into a cargo hold where they hope that intruders will not be detected and there will be lots of margin for error for the teleporter, which could go horribly wrong if they tried to go into a hallway as they'd end up in the walls.

Edit: So they'd have a very good idea about the layout, but not the exact location of the bridge or engine deck.

[Feil]

Powerfists give them pretty significant mobility, if they know the layout of the Star Destroyer: they can simply tear through the walls or floor to reach their objective, which would make funneling them into anti-tank weapons fairly difficult.

I think their biggest limiting factor is ammunition. Their fingers are too big to use enemy weapons. Hand to hand weapons will be largely useless against an enemy which has no intention of ever getting close to the 3-meter-tall supermen with fists that can punch through tank armor - and Terminators aren't much faster than regular un-modified humans, I believe.

One assumes that Terminators face the same problems as real-world tanks: they may be invulnerable to small arms, but they incorporate sensitive external equipment - sensors, air filters, joints, etc - which are not. If this is the case, they can't just ignore the enemy small arms and jog straight towards their objective, saving their ammunition for heavy weapons, because if they do they'll be blind and deaf before they make it half way.

I think the Star Destroyer's Stormtroopers take it. They just have to die until the Terminators run out of ammunition, then bring up the Star Wars equivalent of an anti-tank rocket and pick them off one at a time.


EDIT: Can Terminators walk on walls/ceilings? They're equipped to walk in zero-gravity in a universe that doesn't use steel any more regularly than Star Wars, which means magicmagnetic boots. And we already know that they are capable of fantastic feats of strength, which means not only strength but traction.

[Interlord1]

Considering the suits are so massive i'd assume they could hold a lot of ammunition, so I think it'd take a lot of dying. But again, not totally sure.

[Stark]

They don't really need to 'funnel' them; those rebel urea with some PLX launchers and an eweb shadowing them are much more mobile.

Tearing through walls is a hilariously stupid idea in a spaceship, but it'll probably get them blown up, isolated or outside in no time.

[Stark]

Considering the suits are so massive i'd assume they could hold a lot of ammunition, so I think it'd take a lot of dying. But again, not totally sure.

Are ou retarded? They're huge because they're heavily armored.

[Interlord1]

Somehow I doubt there ability to tear through an armor plated wall into a vacumn.

Edit: Oh yeah, I think i went stupid for a moment, about that ammo statement. sorry.

[Stark]

Somehow I doubt there ability to tear through an armor plated wall into a vacumn.

You know they have a shipwide 'dump garbage into space' system, and a penchant for huge void space right? Lol

[Interlord1]

I just had an image in my head of terminators wiggling about in space having Tie fighters run them over.

[Feil]

Where the hell are you getting the idea that a Space Marine can punch through the exterior armor of a Star Wars warship, by the way, Stark?

[Stark]

Quote me saying that or fuck off. They can handle garbage and blow it into space so tearing through walls is stupid.

Then again 'walls' are the limiting factor in space hulk and you have no idea what ISD walls are made of so ... Fuck off?

[Brother-Captain Gaius]

Well, the mission objective in the traditional 'Space Hulk' scenario is to secure it as intact as possible, sans genestealers, hence tearing through the walls isn't part of the mission. If the mission is 'wreck some shit up' then that restriction is a non-issue.