The origin of shields

SF: discuss futuristic sci-fi series, ideas, and crossovers.

Moderator: NecronLord

Post Reply
User avatar
hongi
Jedi Council Member
Posts: 1952
Joined: 2006-10-15 02:14am
Location: Sydney

The origin of shields

Post by hongi »

Does anyone know where the idea of shields came from in science fiction? Who was the first to use them in their books?
User avatar
Stofsk
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 12925
Joined: 2003-11-10 12:36am

Re: The origin of shields

Post by Stofsk »

I think I remember hearing something equivalent to shields or force fields in an E.E. Smith book. Asimov had personal force fields to protect against blasters in Foundation, but I'm willing to bet the idea predated him.
Image
Simon_Jester
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 30165
Joined: 2009-05-23 07:29pm

Re: The origin of shields

Post by Simon_Jester »

Smith published a story featuring a variety of types of shields, Triplanetary (the original magazine serial version), in 1934. He also used shields in Skylark Three,* I believe, and that was published in 1930.

Both stories predate anything by Asimov or Heinlein; at the time, both were merely fans reading Smith's work, rather than authors in their own right.

*Which featured among other things the "zone of force," an interesting shield that was impermeable to all 'normal' forces including gravity; the first guy to turn one on found himself drifting away from the Earth in an impenetrable black sphere because neither light nor the Earth's gravity affected him.
This space dedicated to Vasily Arkhipov
User avatar
Ford Prefect
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 8254
Joined: 2005-05-16 04:08am
Location: The real number domain

Re: The origin of shields

Post by Ford Prefect »

Honestly, if someone could find a 'shield' predating Doc Smith, I'd be pretty impressed.
What is Project Zohar?

Here's to a certain mostly harmless nutcase.
User avatar
Ilya Muromets
Jedi Knight
Posts: 711
Joined: 2009-03-18 01:07pm
Location: The Philippines
Contact:

Re: The origin of shields

Post by Ilya Muromets »

I have this fuzzy memory of a "circle of energy" protective field from an old novel written around WW1 or something. But I can't remember what that was.

EDIT: Ah, found it on Wiki. The Night Land by William Hope Hodgson. Published before WWI (1912), not during.
Image

"Like I said, I don't care about human suffering as long as it doesn't affect me."
----LionElJonson, admitting to being a sociopathic little shit

"Please educate yourself before posting more."
----Sarevok, who really should have taken his own advice
User avatar
BLACKSUN2000
Youngling
Posts: 125
Joined: 2010-01-12 04:26am
Location: In the void, watching the world.

Re: The origin of shields

Post by BLACKSUN2000 »

I could've sworn Jules Verne's works although at the moment I am strapped for time, I think it was the one where they went to the moon....
Even if I go to hell, I will live to the end of this world. And if the world does not come to an end... I will destroy it with my own hands!-Lacan

Yes, we will destroy god. That is our purpose... That is our destiny!-Grahf
User avatar
Sarevok
The Fearless One
Posts: 10681
Joined: 2002-12-24 07:29am
Location: The Covenants last and final line of defense

Re: The origin of shields

Post by Sarevok »

BLACKSUN2000 wrote:I could've sworn Jules Verne's works although at the moment I am strapped for time, I think it was the one where they went to the moon....
No. Jules Vernes works did not touch upon DET weaponry or shielding technology. In Earth to the moon what he featured was an unrealistic giant spring system to absorb the force of sudden acceleration to escape velocity.
I have to tell you something everything I wrote above is a lie.
User avatar
Stark
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 36169
Joined: 2002-07-03 09:56pm
Location: Brisbane, Australia

Re: The origin of shields

Post by Stark »

If it counts I've read 20s supernatural rubbish full of shields that ran on vibrational nonsense to do all sorts of rubbish.
User avatar
frogcurry
Padawan Learner
Posts: 442
Joined: 2005-03-13 06:34am

Re: The origin of shields

Post by frogcurry »

Stark wrote:If it counts I've read 20s supernatural rubbish full of shields that ran on vibrational nonsense to do all sorts of rubbish.
It sounds like they'd count if they were sci-fi, but you imply that they are some sort of badly written fantasy? Maybe the idea transferred genres.
User avatar
Stark
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 36169
Joined: 2002-07-03 09:56pm
Location: Brisbane, Australia

Re: The origin of shields

Post by Stark »

I think the idea is the same source; once we got electrical theory and 'fields' of 'vibrational energy' were pop physics (like in the 20s) shields were a common element. Shit, you could argue there are 'shields' in Lovecraft, and Carnaki certainly uses shields.
Simon_Jester
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 30165
Joined: 2009-05-23 07:29pm

Re: The origin of shields

Post by Simon_Jester »

True. Doc Smith's shields were likewise electrical in character, at least to some extent and by implication: you'd get arcing and sparks flying off them when they were shot at and such. "Vibrational" was a pop word referring to the wavelike properties of electromagnetism and, by implication, to whatever weird stuff made shields possible.
This space dedicated to Vasily Arkhipov
User avatar
Axiomatic
Padawan Learner
Posts: 249
Joined: 2008-01-16 04:54am

Re: The origin of shields

Post by Axiomatic »

I seem to remember that in Lovecraft's case, at least, he didn't use the word "Shield", although some aliens employed "envelopes" that functioned in the same way.
Yesterday upon the stair
I met a man who wasn't there.
He wasn't there again today.
I think he's from the CIA.
Post Reply