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His Divine Shadow wrote:Well, anyway I am not sure wheter I'll get a clawhammer of IA-64 CPU yet, we'll have to look at that when we actually got some CPU's to look at.
Transmeta chips are specifically designed for that. Emulation of x86 on IA64 would be slow as shit.

[edit]Intel does not intend IA-64 for desktops[/edit]
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Pu-239 wrote:[edit]Intel does not intend IA-64 for desktops[/edit]
Only the first versions.
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However Hammer for desktops will be out in september, while IA-64 will be far off since no one will want it at first since it is not fully backward compatible. [edit: By the time that it's ready, AMD will have already gained a strong foothold, and stuff will have already been designed to use AMD's architecture, so Intel might have to duplicate it. How humiliating. Besides I've heard even Dell has signed on] There's no point to a 64 bit chip if it does not run anything. On the other hand, Linux and a lot of it's apps work on IA-64 with a recompile, but I have no idea what the performance is, probably shitty, unless you use ICC for IA-64 if it/when it comes out. There is windows on IA-64, but you can't really recompile your apps without source code, can you? :P That's the benefit of having source code.

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Oh, we will see, but in the end, I am quite certain Intel will come out on top, and then AMD will hopefully scrap it's x86-64 route and make the industry united again, this can go to hell if it's handled badly.
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Fixed Accidental Spam and Posts relating to Accidental Spam

Now onto my acutal Point
If Intel does not get its shit togther as some suggest on the Market or AMD takes a Nose Dive, is there anyone left to fill AMD's or Intel's shoes? Exculding VIA of course

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Mr Bean wrote:Fixed Accidental Spam and Posts relating to Accidental Spam

Now onto my acutal Point
If Intel does not get its shit togther as some suggest on the Market or AMD takes a Nose Dive, is there anyone left to fill AMD's or Intel's shoes? Exculding VIA of course
Not really. VIA's processors are for the low-power integrated market (C3) and not incredibly fast.
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Nope. Well we can always buy Sun Sparc workstations and run Solaris or Linux. Screw x86 compatibility :wink: .

Well you really don't need all the performance, unless you are a heavy gamer, so let's all buy Transmeta chips. And they can theoretically emulate any processor if they developed code-morphing software emulating other architectures. They plan to do that for AMD-64.

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Or you can use a mac

Oh and Intel does not intend for 64 bit chips to be used in desktops until 2008 or 2009:
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1103-985432.html

Translation:they botched on Itanic

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I would say thats alot of bunk, and it's from ZDnet anyway.
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