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Phantasee wrote:Liberty: I just wanted to confirm that, yes, they are hot. I wish I was nailin' Palin and I'd ogle O'Donnell.
Had you been in college with Christine O'Donnell back in the early 90's, you may very well have had an opportunity to drill O'Donnell like an Arab looking for oil. The rumor is that the reason she's so loony and Jesusy today is because she was a filthy whore her first few years in college. Her behavior is a reaction to having random, meaningless sex with lots and lots of guys. Which, not surprisingly, makes a whole lot of sense when you think about Christian preachers crusading against homosexuality who love to get pounded in the ass by gay hookers behind closed doors.
Is it really a rumor if she herself admits to it?
The Article wrote:But Christine O'Donnell didn't grow up in a strict religious household. For her, the turning point came in college.

While at Fairleigh Dickinson University, she told the Delaware News Journal in April 2004, she did things she now regrets. As the News Journal put it, those things were "drinking too much and having sex with guys with whom there wasn't a strong emotional connection."

She was a junior, she said in another profile published in 2006, when a friend "asked me if I knew how an abortion was performed ... She showed me the medical journals, and it was frightening."

"There's only truth and not truth," she said. "You're either very good or evil. I went back to my dorm and asked myself what I was."

O'Donnell decided then to drop her acting ambitions (she was a theater major). She became an evangelical Christian, a departure from her relatively lax Catholic upbringing. She joined the College Republicans and campaigned for the Bush-Quayle ticket.

That was the beginning of O'Donnell as crusader. Her biggest crusade has become preaching abstinence until marriage to young women.

"Not only because I think I'm right," she said in 2004. "I know what it's like to live a life without principle."
However, it did make her turn completely fucking psychotic, even to the point of hearing voices.
Also the Article wrote:"Originally I said no," she said. "I never wanted to run for office. I was an outspoken advocate, and if you run you have to water it down. But as someone who prays about every decision I make, I felt like God was leading me in the other direction."

"During the primary, I heard the audible voice of God," she said. "He said, 'Credibility.' It wasn't a thought in my head. I thought it meant I was going to win. But after the primary, I got credibility."
So, she is on the record saying she's had God speak directly in her head. Riiiiiiight. This is the quality of politician we have in America.
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Thanas wrote:Moderate for a republican, which should have been clear from the context anyway.
Honestly, I don't know about Rove's political views as a person. For all I know he's not to the left of the Tea Party to any real degree; he just disagrees about tactics because he's a competent political analyst and they're not.
Also, I think he may be feeling a bit bitter because he was all in favor of embracing the tea party when it helped the GOP.
I think that makes a lot of sense. Buyer's remorse may be a factor too: he and others like him helped create this movement, or the potential for it, and now it's grown large and powerful enough that they can't control it. And it's doing them a lot of damage. He's got to be thinking something like "No! Get back into formation with the rest of us like you were in the Bush years!"
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Phantasee wrote:Liberty: I just wanted to confirm that, yes, they are hot. I wish I was nailin' Palin and I'd ogle O'Donnell.
Screw that. Aside from smoking, there is nothing more unattractive than a conservative ideologue, especially a woman who espouses beliefs that are inherently unfriendly to women. Abstinence-mongers aren't sexy.

Anyway, Castle refuses to endorse O'Crazy:
Mike Castle won't endorse Christine O'Donnell for Senate, citing 'smears'

By Paul Kane

Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, September 16, 2010; 3:36 PM

Still grappling with his shocking primary defeat, Rep. Mike Castle (R-Del.) said Thursday that he will not endorse GOP Senate nominee Christine O'Donnell because he could not tolerate some of the "personal smears" he faced during the campaign.

Castle has spent the past 36 hours fielding phone calls and pats on the back from well-wishing colleagues and other politicians, including President Obama, Vice President Biden, House Minority Leader John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) and dozens of others. He said that he was coming to grips with the reasons for his defeat - a conservative rebellion in the southern portion of the state that was given extra ammunition by Sarah Palin's endorsement of O'Donnell. But he said that there probably wasn't enough time in the next six weeks for him to get over some of the attacks lobbed in the contest.

"There are a lot of personal feelings in all this," Castle said in an interview off the House floor, citing "some of the personal smears" in the bitterly fought campaign. "At this point I have no intention of endorsing."

He ruled out supporting the Democratic nominee, New Castle County Executive Christopher Coons, suggesting that he will remain neutral in the run for Senate.

On Friday, four days before the primary, O'Donnell called Castle "unmanly" for filing an election law complaint against her, telling a radio show host that "this is not a bake-off, get your man-pants on."

Both campaigns traded a series of personal charges in the final week of the race, including Castle supporters who highlighted O'Donnell's messy personal finances and declared she could not win a general election ballot for dogcatcher.

O'Donnell, highlighting those attacks in her acceptance speech Tuesday night, has said that women face higher standards in politics. "This is about changing the system in Delaware so that more everyday Americans can step up to the plate without worrying about character assassinations," she said.

She has since indicated she would take Castle's endorsement, but Castle and O'Donnell have not yet spoken. Castle said that his campaign had two phone numbers for her - one a mobile phone, the other a home phone - and that both were out of service Tuesday and Wednesday. He said that on Thursday morning he called the general campaign phone number and left a message saying he was trying to call.

O'Donnell's campaign has become a financial juggernaut since gaining national attention with the victory. Her Web site indicated midday Thursday that it has taken in more than $1 million in contributions since Tuesday night.

Castle said that Palin provided "attention, publicity" to O'Donnell and might have given the final push to make it a clear win for her.

Sen. Jim DeMint's (R-S.C.) endorsement of O'Donnell had no impact on the vote, Castle said. DeMint, who heads the Senate Conservatives Fund, is an unknown figure in Delaware who merely wanted to latch on to O'Donnell in case she won so he could claim to have played a role in her victory, Castle said.

"My fate was sealed without either one of them, in retrospect," Castle said of Palin and DeMint's endorsements, suggesting the voters were too angry for his moderate views. "They were very energetic, they were very committed, and they didn't want to hear any other point of view."
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Phantasee wrote:Liberty: I just wanted to confirm that, yes, they are hot. I wish I was nailin' Palin and I'd ogle O'Donnell.
Screw that. Aside from smoking, there is nothing more unattractive than a conservative ideologue, especially a woman who espouses beliefs that are inherently unfriendly to women. Abstinence-mongers aren't sexy.
Then you are a better man than I am, because the fact that she is a moron does not mean that I couldn't objectify her body, in other words find her hot.

As it happens, I once met a guy who had almost identical history to hers. Lots of loose sex in his early twenties, even orgies at some point he claimed. Then God spoke to him (literally) and he became a born-again Christian. He even said that he once saw demons when participating in orgies, although one can't be sure if that was a true visual hallucination, a false memory, or simply a little embellishment to bring his wacky evangelical message through. Thanks Flying Spaghetti Monster, this guy was not into politics -- he seemed to endorse the older view that Christians should not actively participate in politics -- but otherwise he was quite crazy and of course advocated abstinence before marriage and all that, even though he didn't say anything about masturbation. Quite charismatic as well (in both the conventional and Christian meaning of the word), and probably high on the narcissistic scale.
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Liberty wrote:Now, after watching that clip, here is something that has been bothering me: I'm not a male, but it seems like O'Donnell and Palin have, well, sex appeal. I'm going to guess that if O'Donnell looked more average, or even homely, she wouldn't have won this race. Similarly, if Palin had looked homely, she wouldn't have gotten picked for VP candidate. Am I wrong? This bothers me! I can't put my finger on exactly why, but it really, really bothers me. Candidates should be chosen and put forward based on their views and abilities, not their looks.

Promoting women based in any way on looks (beyond basic personal hygiene) rather than on their views is offensive to me. I felt this way back in 2008; there are plenty of well qualified conservative Republican women McCain could have chosen, but instead he picked the ones with the looks but not the qualifications. It felt like a slap in the face.
Well the Republican base votes on the matter of 'Who can you see yourself having a beer with'. I can't imagine that they're too good to vote for a woman based on an equally superfluous and inappropriate reason.
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Marcus Aurelius wrote:[Then you are a better man than I am, because the fact that she is a moron does not mean that I couldn't objectify her body, in other words find her hot.
Eh, personal taste, nothing more. I have said before Palin is attractive (in the general sense), sure, but I don't find her so.

Really though it's not just her lack of intelligence (same goes with this other woman). Their worldviews are so antithetical to me that any sense of desire is pretty much quashed. Hell, I don't have conservative friends, nor do I generally associate with any (outspoken) Tea Partyish/ultra-conservative types. Those people are unappealing to me, in all sorts of ways; I steer clear.
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It might be the greatest part of living in Canada: people don't flaunt their politics in public, and generally have less whacked out views anyway. I've never had to consider politics when looking for a lay.

As you said, smoking is a major turn off, though.
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No personal attacks: O'Donnell opens fall campaign

By RANDALL CHASE
updated 9/16/2010 10:53:29 PM ET

WILMINGTON, Del. — Tea party favorite Christine O'Donnell fended off jabs from her Democratic Senate rival about her experience Thursday, meeting him at a candidate forum absent the acrimony that overshadowed her upset primary win over a former governor.

O'Donnell, who defeated former governor and veteran U.S. Rep Michael Castle in a bitter Republican primary Tuesday, met opponent Chris Coons at a standing-room only event that ushers in the fall campaign in a nationally watched U.S. Senate race.

Coons declared in his opening statement at the Wilmington forum that Delaware's next U.S. senator should be somebody who is prepared and has concrete ideas.

O'Donnell, who came under withering criticism from Castle and the state GOP — whose chairman said she couldn't be elected dogcatcher — said her goal was for voters to get to know her between now and November.

"It's no secret that there's been a rather unflattering portrait of me painted these days," said O'Donnell, who was criticized by GOP officials for lying about her background, leaving a trail of unpaid bills that included an IRS tax lien and a mortgage default and misusing campaign contributions for personal expenses.

Coons and O'Donnell focused on such issues as national security and health care reform but there was none of the pointed rhetoric and personal attacks that made the O'Donnell-Castle primary a slugfest.

"I can't tell you how refreshing it is to have an opponent who wants to talk about the issues, so I thank you for that gentlemanly approach," O'Donnell told Coons.

But at one point, midway, when the moderator read an audience question to O'Donnell about her views on government and private sexual behavior, someone in the audience shouted: "It's personal!" That drew a nod from O'Donnell.

"Yes, I have my personal beliefs," said O'Donnell, who stepped into the public spotlight in the 1990s as a conservative activist speaking out against abortion, homosexuality and premarital sex.

For his part, Coons said Delaware residents are interested in what candidates will do to create jobs, reduce the national debt and fix what he called a broken political system in Washington.

"I don't they're particularly interested in statements that either of us made 20 or 30 years ago," said Coons, who has been targeted by Republicans for an article he wrote for his college newspaper as a 21-year-old student that was entitled "Chris Coons: The Making of a Bearded Marxist."
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Ye godz, I had half-forgotten just exactly how much of a complete babbling imbecile this woman is. At the current rate of teabagger-driven decline, the collective IQ of the Republican Party should be dipping into negative digits within a year or so. That PI clip shows her essentially expressing the very simplistic morality of a six-year old.
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O'Donnell saying "No personal Attacks" reminds me very much of Palin during the presidential election saying "play nice" while people in her audience where openly suggesting they lynch Obama and such.

I seriously doubt she will left one finger when her supporters come out with Terrible Terrible attack adds against Coons, while at the same time bithcing about anything he puts out.
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well Bill Maher is doing his part and rebroadcasting her crazier shit from MTV and Pollitically incorrect now...
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I'd like Broomstick's opinion on this - does what she says here actually make sense?

But honestly, this cracks me up. I don't care if she dabbled in witchcraft, or whatever. I DO care that she thinks condoms don't work and that we should tell kids masturbating is evil. But now, watch the right wing fall all over itself.
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MSNBC wrote:O'Donnell makes light of witchcraft comment

By RANDALL CHASE
updated 9/19/2010 8:39:52 PM ET

LINCOLN, Del. — Republican Senate candidate Christine O'Donnell is making light of comments she made more than a decade ago about having dabbled in witchcraft when she was in high school.

"How many of you didn't hang out with questionable folks in high school?" she asked fellow Republicans at a GOP picnic in southern Delaware on Sunday.

"There's been no witchcraft since. If there was, Karl Rove would be a supporter now," O'Donnell jokingly assured the crowd.

Rove, the former GOP strategist and adviser to President George W. Bush, has suggested that O'Donnell's win in last week's GOP primary cost Republicans a chance to retake the Senate seat long held by Democrat Joe Biden before he was elected vice president.

O'Donnell, a conservative Christian activist, rode a surging tide of tea party activism to an upset victory over GOP moderate Michael Castle, Delaware's longtime congressman and former two-term governor. She faces Democratic county executive Chris Coons in November.

O'Donnell's comments about witchcraft were made during a 1999 taping of comedian Bill Maher's "Politically Incorrect" show.

"I dabbled into witchcraft. I never joined a coven," she said on the show, a clip of which hit the Internet as O'Donnell canceled Sunday appearances on two national news shows, citing commitments to attend church and the GOP picnic in Delaware.


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FILE - In this Friday, Sept. 17, 2010 file photo, Delaware Republican Senate candidate Christine O'Donnell delivers remarks at Values Voter Summit in Washington. Comedian Bill Maher is digging up clips of Delaware GOP Senate candidate Christine O'Donnell's past appearances on his shows, including one in which she says she "dabbled in witchcraft." (AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ceneta, File)
Isn't she all folksy and Palinish lookin already!
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The witchcraft thing is completely overblown. Within her base's worldview, there's nothing at all surprising about a teenager or college student dabbling in "witchcraft" (which can include Wicca or Dungeons and Dragons). A lot of born-agains have their own private stories about wild, sinful youths followed by a return to Jesus; O'Donnell's story mirrors their own.

People are making a lot of O'Donnell's personal life; that was practically Mike Castle's entire campaign, when it wasn't "I'm Mike Castle; you love me, so vote for me." The narrative from the establishment Republicans (led by Rove) wasn't just that she was unelectable or even unfit for the office; it was more like she doesn't deserve it. Mike Castle refused to even appear on stage with her. The message from the Castle campaign/Republican establishment was, essentially: "Look at this poor weirdo who can't pay her bills." I think that was a bad mistake; going after a populist insurgent candidate because she lost her house or couldn't pay her student loans, in this economy, is exactly the sort of thing that will motivate her base.

Fortunately, we shouldn't see the same thing from Coons. For one thing, he's not an idiot. For another, in a general election, he can point to O'Donnell and say "She's way to the right of you, the average Delaware voter, and she's going to vote for Republican policies that you've hated for years." Castle was handicapped by being well to the left of the Republican primary electorate; his whole campaign had to be about electability because he'd lose on the issues.
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Watching some of Coons most recent Ads seems to reflect this.

A lot of the more crazy aspects of O Donnell are simply ignored and he is running on a more safe "She is a really really conservative person that you don't like" style. For the most part he seems an easy win, every poll coming out of the state has Coons leaps and bound ahead of O Donnell.

She may go on to be another Palin, a darling of the Tea Party, making millions doing talk shows and speeches on Fox, but her Campaign is virtually DOA.
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You really can't ignore how crazy O'Donnell is. I'm all for gentlemanly debate on the issues, but if I were Coons, I'd make sure everyone knew that this was the woman who squirted 12M Liquid Crazy on Bill O'Rielly's show by claiming that scientists were making rats with fully functional human brains. When someone earnestly says something like that, it's someone the electorate needs to know about so they aren't voting for someone who watches B grade horror movies for their "realism".

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^ I wonder how much he even needs to. She's destroying herself pretty thoroughly, he doesn't need to risk being seen as "going negative."
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This is the guy they want to use to win over "young people?" Are they completely daft? I'd rather vote for a pile of shit than a Jesus freak social regressive.
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Bill Maher seems more than happy to do it for Coons. He's promised to release more shit she's said on his shows back in the day.
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Exactly. Most of the MSM is eating up the stories of her craziness, so Coons can be civil, safe in the knowledge that everyone will know about her looney tunes views anyway.

He's going to debate her again on October 13th at UD. Red and I will be there.
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Be sure that you and Red support her fully. I've seen Tom and Jerry. Who knows what damage the army of Jerry Mouses could cause after their inevitable escape from the evil liberal scientists that made them? This country could be swept clean of cheese in a fortnight!

Seriously though, if only the Tea Party candidates that swept out the establishment republicans were all this kooky. There are going to alot of races where its going to be a really tight thing for the Democrat to win, like Florida or Colorado.
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