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Sciencenews.org wrote:DVDs don’t turn toddlers into vocabulary Einsteins
But some parents mistakenly think kids do learn words from watching these popular programs
By Bruce Bower

Toddlers get a kick out of giving adults a hard time. True to form, these wobbly-legged knowledge-sponges learn virtually nothing from best-selling DVDs that their parents believe will boost vocabulary and trigger academic superstardom.

Young children who viewed a popular DVD regularly for one month, either with or without their parents, showed no greater understanding of words from the program than kids who never saw it, according to a study slated to appear in Psychological Science.

“The degree to which babies actually learn from baby videos is negligible,” says psychologist and study director Judy DeLoache of the University of Virginia in Charlottesville.

Still, adults who initially liked the DVD thought that their children learned many words by watching it. DeLoache suspects that some parents mistakenly assume that educational DVDs such as Baby Einstein prompt the spike in word learning that naturally occurs between 12 and 24 months of age (SN: 4/25/98, p. 268).

Annual sales of Baby Einstein products now reach about $200 million in the United States. Other companies sell competing educational DVDs in what is now an international business.

DeLoache calls the educational DVD she used in her new study “one of the best available” but wouldn’t identify the brand.

Direct interaction with adults reigns supreme as a learning tool in the first few years of life, DeLoache holds. In her new study, youngsters displayed a word-learning advantage if their parents spent a month trying to teach words from the DVD whenever they had time and however they thought best, without ever playing the program for the children.

“This new paper and others give us little reason to believe that watching DVDs and videos will enhance young children’s language learning,” comments psychologist Roberta Golinkoff of the University of Delaware in Newark.

By showing that parents can teach words directly to their kids better than a DVD can, DeLoache’s study “indicates the importance of having a social partner in learning,” remarks psychologist Michael Robb of Saint Vincent College in Latrobe, Penn.

Robb and his colleagues tracked 1- to 2-year-olds who watched Baby Wordsworth, one of the Baby Einstein DVDs, with or without their parents for six weeks. At a final viewing session with parents, DVD-watchers used no more words from the program than same-age kids who were seeing it for the first time, the team reported in the May Archives of Pediatrics & Adolescent Medicine.

For DeLoache’s study, scientists randomly assigned 72 kids, ages 12 months to 18 months, to one of four month-long conditions. Some watched a 39-minute DVD by themselves, and others with a parent, at least five times a week. In the third group, parents were given a list of 25 words (mostly the names of household objects such as clock) featured in the DVD and told to teach as many as possible to kids in whatever way seemed appropriate. Finally, some kids neither watched the DVD nor received parental instruction about words from the program.

Before the experiment started, an experimenter tested each child at home for his or her understanding of 13 words from the DVD. The children failed to recognize between five and 12 of the words.

When tested one month later, children who hadn’t seen the DVD but received vocabulary help from their parents knew, on average, half of the words that had previously eluded them. Youngsters in the other three groups — even those who had merely carried on as usual — identified about one-third of formerly unknown words.

Related evidence indicates that kids under age 3 don’t grasp the relation between what they see on a screen and the physical world (SN: 4/10/10, p. 9). Most don’t realize that a symbol — say, a horse on television or a small-scale replica of a stuffed animal — corresponds to a real-world object, DeLoache suspects.

Logs kept by parents during the study often included descriptions of their children’s intense DVD-viewing habits, DeLoache notes. “She loves the blasted thing,” one mother wrote. “It’s like crack for babies.”

That may partly explain why parents who favor educational DVDs erroneously claim that their toddlers learn a lot from them, Golinkoff suggests. “Kids can look so rapt when they watch these videos that parents may think that attention equals learning, when clearly it does not,” she says.
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This is just adding more evidence that the whole "our products will magically make your kids smarter without you having to do any work" business is a sham. Just like with the stupid Mozart CDs that georgia used to give out to new mothers and all the other crap. Kids need personal attention and human interaction, preferably with parents or an equivalent. That's how we evolved and that's how infants learn. There is no easy way out of it and the children could end up getting hurt in the long run if they're not getting the proper stimulation they need.

On a more scientific note, the results do make sense since it's not until somewhere between two and a half to three years old that most toddlers get any real grasp on understanding symbolism, that a scale model of a room can represent a room without being it or, as they noted, that pictures correspond to real things. It makes me wonder what the toddlers are actually processing when they watch the TV - is it just a random jumble of colors and sounds?

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Mayabird wrote:It makes me wonder what the toddlers are actually processing when they watch the TV - is it just a random jumble of colors and sounds?
That makes sense. At a certain point I have clear memories of being a child, including watching TV (I was around 3). Before that there are some much blurrier memories, with only certain things standing out. And before that I can't remember much of anything clearly.
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Wholly unsurprising. A TV program doesn't provide the interaction and positive-feedback loops required to facilitate learning at that age (i.e. mommy right there in the room physically pointing out and naming objects that are physically in the room.) To a toddler with a limited concept of symbolism, when they see a TV with something being displayed on it, they see this box that makes noise, bright moving lights and colors; but they're not going to grasp that those moving lights and colors are symbolic of things in a different place, as opposed to simply being intrinsic properties of a TV.

tl;dr: TV = Ooooh, shiny! to a toddler. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Temujin wrote:
Mayabird wrote:It makes me wonder what the toddlers are actually processing when they watch the TV - is it just a random jumble of colors and sounds?
That makes sense. At a certain point I have clear memories of being a child, including watching TV (I was around 3). Before that there are some much blurrier memories, with only certain things standing out. And before that I can't remember much of anything clearly.
I would be surprised if you had any real memories before the age of three at all. Are you certain these are not things somebody has told you later (i.e. false memories)? There is of course some individual variation, but in general it is rare for a person to have verifiable real memories from before the age on 30 months or so.

The understanding of symbols is probably somehow related to how adult memory works. Toddlers before about the age of three either do not form long time situational memories (although they naturally learn skills, and remember places and persons) or the memories are in a "format" that is unaccessible to the mind at later stages of development. This is a difficult subject to study, since methods like regression under hypnosis have proven to be quite unreliable. If toddlers are asked if they remember some situation, they may answer yes, but what they actually remember is more difficult to ascertain.
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Marcus Aurelius wrote:
Temujin wrote:
Mayabird wrote:It makes me wonder what the toddlers are actually processing when they watch the TV - is it just a random jumble of colors and sounds?
That makes sense. At a certain point I have clear memories of being a child, including watching TV (I was around 3). Before that there are some much blurrier memories, with only certain things standing out. And before that I can't remember much of anything clearly.
I would be surprised if you had any real memories before the age of three at all. Are you certain these are not things somebody has told you later (i.e. false memories)? There is of course some individual variation, but in general it is rare for a person to have verifiable real memories from before the age on 30 months or so.

The understanding of symbols is probably somehow related to how adult memory works. Toddlers before about the age of three either do not form long time situational memories (although they naturally learn skills, and remember places and persons) or the memories are in a "format" that is unaccessible to the mind at later stages of development. This is a difficult subject to study, since methods like regression under hypnosis have proven to be quite unreliable. If toddlers are asked if they remember some situation, they may answer yes, but what they actually remember is more difficult to ascertain.
I should clarify that I meant some clear memories that stood out. As in isolated incidents, not a continuous stream; and they were usually associated with something very emotional. Before that I had blurry recollections of some events, but honestly couldn't tell how real they were, though some seem to be tied to real life events like almost drowning at two.
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Not all that surprising, honestly.
I do hope that the failure of this kind of thing to boost kids' intelligence doesn't discourage parents from doing things like listening to classical music with their children, though. A love of great music is a good thing for a parent to instill, no matter how early - regardless of any "baby Einstein" claims.
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Mayabird wrote: This is just adding more evidence that the whole "our products will magically make your kids smarter without you having to do any work" business is a sham. Just like with the stupid Mozart CDs that georgia used to give out to new mothers and all the other crap.
If they're trying to say that listening to classical music will make the kids smarter, than that's stupid, yes. But I'm all for fostering an appreciation of classical music in children.
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Shit parents like to hinge on wonder-things that make things better magically or through bullshit, so they won't have to go through the difficulties of actual parenting.
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Shroom Man 777 wrote:Shit parents like to hinge on wonder-things that make things better magically or through bullshit, so they won't have to go through the difficulties of actual parenting.
True. If the technology was there, I wouldn't be surprised if parents hooked little Johnny or Suzy up to something like a Borg alcove in an attempt to ease their parenting responsibilities and still produce wunderkin.

And celebrities, who have more time and money can be some of the worst offenders, letting the hired help do all of the raising while they take a little time out of their schedule to play with the child and pose for pictures. Then they wonder why some of them grow up and go on talk shows and go to rehab.

Speaking of which, are there any celebrities that have endorsed this Baby Einstein crap and its ilk. I could see Scientologists having their own brand of weird crap to brainwash their children.
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Mayabird wrote: This is just adding more evidence that the whole "our products will magically make your kids smarter without you having to do any work" business is a sham. Just like with the stupid Mozart CDs that georgia used to give out to new mothers and all the other crap.
If they're trying to say that listening to classical music will make the kids smarter, than that's stupid, yes. But I'm all for fostering an appreciation of classical music in children.
As am I, and there is a positive effect when children actually learn to play music (musical instruments, singing, whatever) but just making an infant listen to CDs (or worse, playing the CDs at the pregnant mother's belly) does absolutely nothing for the child. And yes, the latter (Mozart is magic brain music for babies!) was what Zell Miller and the state of georgia were trying to encourage, because very little comes out of that place that isn't completely retarded.
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DPDarkPrimus wrote:
Mayabird wrote: This is just adding more evidence that the whole "our products will magically make your kids smarter without you having to do any work" business is a sham. Just like with the stupid Mozart CDs that georgia used to give out to new mothers and all the other crap.
If they're trying to say that listening to classical music will make the kids smarter, than that's stupid, yes. But I'm all for fostering an appreciation of classical music in children.
If I recall correctly, the original finding was that listening to certain Mozart pieces temporarily increased kids' spacial-temporal reasoning. Later studies were done and found that the reason wasn't the classical music, but rather, the speed at which the song is played - 60 beats per minute - so any song from Mozart to Metallica should work exactly the same.

And really, that makes perfectly good sense. If a song is played with each beat marking off a second, seeing an improvement in spacial-temporal reasoning shouldn't even be a surprise. It's like having a musical stop-watch in your brain.
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GrandMasterTerwynn wrote:To a toddler with a limited concept of symbolism, when they see a TV with something being displayed on it, they see this box that makes noise, bright moving lights and colors; but they're not going to grasp that those moving lights and colors are symbolic of things in a different place, as opposed to simply being intrinsic properties of a TV.
I'm not so sure about that. My 14 month daughter gets excited when she sees Elmo from Sesame Street, regardless of the source (TV, stuffed toy, book, diapers, etc.).
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