ray245 wrote:
But that logic, shouldn't people with a good home security system be paying less taxes as well?
Well you get a discount on your house insurance at any rate.
You're right. And like many people in such a situation I'd be seriously considering starting the process to get a permit and buy a gun just for the tax benefits. I'd then have to choose between the effort and price of that, versus the tax/insurance money I'd save.
Personally, I'm undecided to whether such a scheme would be good or not. It'd essentially be a government incentive to own guns, not just to register any existing ones. I can only imagine the furor that would cause .
Its probably not worth the trouble, your looking at hundreds of dollars for the course, license and a firearm. Unless you do what a bunch of folks did; buy an unregistered weapon off someone and claim you owned it prior, use the amnesty.
But since I'm really only interested in having people comply with the law (you know, so they don't get in shit) I think just waiving the fees for the course and license is a better idea.
M1891/30: A bad day on the range is better then a good day at work.
Uraniun235 wrote:Hahaha, I gotta remember this for the next thread where people throw a huge bitchfit about how terrible it is to feel "obligated" to tip waiters, but somehow it's okay to just increase prices to pay for higher wages so we don't have to tip.
I believe that the point behind making the base wage higher is not so much to make it cheaper for the customer, but rather to provide the waiters with some kind of income security, because in a tipping culture, a waiter can have a large part of their wage docked simply because the customer is forgetful, in a bad mood or foreign.
Uh uh. Thread we had a couple years ago on tipping was not "oh, those poor waiters, they shouldn't have to worry about tips to depend on wages", it was a bunch of social misfits whining and moaning about how angry they were at the custom of tipping.
"There is no "taboo" on using nuclear weapons." -Julhelm
What is Project Zohar? "On a serious note (well not really) I did sometimes jump in and rate nBSG episodes a '5' before the episode even aired or I saw it."- RogueIce explaining that episode ratings on SDN tv show threads are bunk
ray245 wrote:
But since I'm really only interested in having people comply with the law (you know, so they don't get in shit) I think just waiving the fees for the course and license is a better idea.
Yeah, the biggest reason people I know haven't registered is the several hundred dollars for the course.
Shrooms: It's interesting that the taste of blood is kind of irony.
ray245 wrote:
But since I'm really only interested in having people comply with the law (you know, so they don't get in shit) I think just waiving the fees for the course and license is a better idea.
Yeah, the biggest reason people I know haven't registered is the several hundred dollars for the course.
That's not much of a reason for Albertans near Edmonton or Calgary. The Alberta Hunter Education Instructor's Association holds the Canadian Firearms Safety Course on a by-donation basis. Alternatively, you can self-study (buy the course book) and take the challenge exams (also by donation).
Time makes more converts than reason. -- Thomas Paine, Common Sense, 1776
Honestly, folks should really take the course if they've never handled firearms or only a few before. I'm ex-military but I had never touched a lever-action before in my life and the practical requires you to handle one. Thats just an example but there was some other interesting stuff on there I never knew before.
M1891/30: A bad day on the range is better then a good day at work.
Aaron wrote:Honestly, folks should really take the course if they've never handled firearms or only a few before. I'm ex-military but I had never touched a lever-action before in my life and the practical requires you to handle one. Thats just an example but there was some other interesting stuff on there I never knew before.
I agree. My point wasn't having to take the course is the issue (is and should be mandatory), but the fact that you have to pay several hundred dollars to do so. People who already have guns won't want to pay out that money.
Thanks for the Hunters education thing, never knew that existed.
Shrooms: It's interesting that the taste of blood is kind of irony.
Yeah, getting my PAL has been on the back burner for a while just because I haven't gotten around to doing the classes. Knowing it's as cheap as that is good to know.
I was amused when I heard about a fuck up by the Toronto Star (known for being pro gun control?). They published a map graphic shortly after that Boxing Day shooting (IIRC shoot out downtown hit innocent victim?). It showed two things: registered gun owners (per hundred people) and crimes involving a fire arm. All the gun crimes were centred on downtown Toronto and the sketchy quarters of the city, while the ownership numbers were really low (IIRC 2 per hundred people?). Highest registered gun ownership? Out in the rich suburbs, where it was almost 60 per hundred. Showing that it's unregistered, illegal weapons that are being used in crimes.
Something about Libertarianism always bothered me. Then one day, I realized what it was:
Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."
In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around! If all you want to do is have some harmless, mindless fun, go H3RE INST3ADZ0RZ!! Grrr! Fight my Brute, you pansy!
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Its probably not worth the trouble, your looking at hundreds of dollars for the course, license and a firearm. Unless you do what a bunch of folks did; buy an unregistered weapon off someone and claim you owned it prior, use the amnesty.
