ST Race Survival Probability

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ST Race Survival Probability

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We can safely assume that the odds of the Federation surviving a conflict with the Empire are well...slim at best.

However, which ST race or faction do you think would have the highest probability of surviving in or even eventually winning a prolonged war against the Empire?
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No race has a chance of winning, unless you're talking omnipotents (and even then, we don't know if they are omnipotent, which is why people generally don't debate with them, too many unknowns). Personally, I think the Roms may survive slightly longer than the rest-but its miniscule at that.
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The only race that could probably hold out more time would be Species 8472.
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Whoops, forgot about Species 8472.
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Humans of course

any ST Race can survive as long as they want to as long as they capitulate. Vulcans,for example, might see that there is no logic to fighting the Empire. Romulans would do the same for the short term or would trade military information in return for more favorable conditions.
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I say the French survive longest: They give up first and don't fight, so noones going to go after them. :)
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I say the klingons. Everytime they get into a fight the imperials will have to spend about an hour laughing while they make manly noises and try and hurt the storm troopers with bladed weapons. That will make the fight drag on because the imperials will spend more time laughing than fighting.
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I could see most of the Feddie planets accepting Imperial rule, If we're talking Imperial Reminant. If we're talking unrepentant anti-alien Empire then the feddies will have no choice but to rebel.
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What if the entire ST universe teamed up against the empire who would win. ?

excluding Q and other beings like that.
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Or put it another way all of the Alpha Q main races teamed up who would win.
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Tragic wrote:Or put it another way all of the Alpha Q main races teamed up who would win.
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Excluding Q and other superbeings, then the Galactic Empire would win. It's industry dwarfs the entire combined major powers in the alpha quadrent, it has insane speed advantages, and it's firepower and defenses are vastly superior to anything that's going to be thrown at it. Even if all the major powers in the star trek universe (excluding superbeings) united none of these things change, the Empire would just destroy them all at once instead of one at a time.
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If you give them 3000 years as a unified force, they might be on par.
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Spyder wrote:We can safely assume that the odds of the Federation surviving a conflict with the Empire are well...slim at best.

However, which ST race or faction do you think would have the highest probability of surviving in or even eventually winning a prolonged war against the Empire?
If "surviving" doesn't necessarily mean "surviving in the war against the Empire", then the Ferengi is my best candidate. They may as well cooperate with the Empire and be the only government left.
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I say Fed survives b/c if they were smart (which they're not) they could surrender and then be absorbed into SW culture. Like the Imperial war camaign in the Main SD site. (See Phase 6, number 3)
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