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), whose family turned to prayer to help her. Now, I wonder how many fucktards are going to try doing this to 'help' people with severe psychological problems...and I wonder how much money FOX is going to be taken for.
That say a lot about prayer, if it can't overcome something as simple as excessive amounts of fat intake.Durran Korr wrote:Decade? Damn, I thought it wasn't quite that bad, more like a half decade.
Actually, I think is says more about the fact that Americans are a bunch of fat fucks.
Part of that has to do with the diet...Darth Wong wrote:The fact that life expectancy for North American Christians is about a decade shorter than life expectancy for heathen Okinawans and Japanese should tell you something about the healing power of prayer.
Actually, you're right, it's more like a half-decade; I guess I was exaggerating. Nevertheless, the fact that they do live longer disproves the silly notion that prayer has healing power, since they get none of it and Americans get it in spades.Durran Korr wrote:Decade? Damn, I thought it wasn't quite that bad, more like a half decade.
Very true. The Seattle Times article was quite clear about the horrid effects of the American diet. But if prayer had genuine power to overcome the laws of nature, you'd still think those heathens would be dying off a lot sooner than the God-fearing Americans.Actually, I think is says more about the fact that Americans are a bunch of fat fucks.
Indeed, I can't imagine prayer having anything other than a placebo-like effect, but I'd be skeptical of even that.Darth Wong wrote:Actually, you're right, it's more like a half-decade; I guess I was exaggerating. Nevertheless, the fact that they do live longer disproves the silly notion that prayer has healing power, since they get none of it and Americans get it in spades.Durran Korr wrote:Decade? Damn, I thought it wasn't quite that bad, more like a half decade.
Besides, the numerical life expectancy only tells half the tale; Okinawans and Japanese are much healthier in their old age. There are 34 centenarians per 100,000 people in Okinawa compared to 10 in US (yes, more than three times as likely to live to 100 and beyond). And incidence of things like osteoporosis and heart disease is staggeringly different, with Okinawans sufferingly 80% fewer heart attacks than Americans (source: Seattle Times article on Okinawan health). An old American is much more likely to be bedridden, diseased, and kept alive by machines than an old Okinawan.Very true. The Seattle Times article was quite clear about the horrid effects of the American diet. But if prayer had genuine power to overcome the laws of nature, you'd still think those heathens would be dying off a lot sooner than the God-fearing Americans.Actually, I think is says more about the fact that Americans are a bunch of fat fucks.
Yes, there is a placebo effect for those that believe prayer will help. I know several people that feel better, just by being told someone is praying for them to get better, myself included. For me, it's more the idea that someone cares enough to do so, rather than a belief that it will help, but eh.Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:I'd guess that any "healing powers" of prayer are some sort of a placebo effect, which makes far more sense to me than an invisible man in the sky healing them. If God is with these people, then why doesn't he just heal them immediately and let them live to 120? That would be a good question to anyone who considers faith healing valid.
That would be my position. Its certainly self-induced, but if it works, what do I care?LadyTevar wrote:Yes, there is a placebo effect for those that believe prayer will help. I know several people that feel better, just by being told someone is praying for them to get better, myself included. For me, it's more the idea that someone cares enough to do so, rather than a belief that it will help, but eh.
I would say that there are a lot of other factors involved. Not that it matters anyway, one has to prove prayer is helpful, not disprove it.Darth Wong wrote:The fact that life expectancy for North American Christians is about a decade shorter than life expectancy for heathen Okinawans and Japanese should tell you something about the healing power of prayer.
Probly because of the excessive fat intake of typical Americans, but I'll bet the REAL reason is that God is a fucking racist misogynistic homophobic hate-spewing pig cunt who has the mentality of a four-year-old and wants to send everybody to Hell NOW NOW NOW RIGHT FUCKING FOOT-STOMPING HAIR-PULLING CHILDISH-TEMPER-TANTRUM NOW! But I don't believe in the fucktard, so he has no power over me. Neither do heathens, so they live longer. W00t!Darth Wong wrote:The fact that life expectancy for North American Christians is about a decade shorter than life expectancy for heathen Okinawans and Japanese should tell you something about the healing power of prayer.
The japanese drink very little red wine, and they are far less likely to die of heart attack than the British or the Americans, the Italians drink copious amounts of red wine and are far less likely to die of heart disease. The Japanese also eat far less fat and the French eat far more fat and are still healthier. So it isn't diet that's bad, its speaking English that kills you.Darth Wong wrote:The fact that life expectancy for North American Christians is about a decade shorter than life expectancy for heathen Okinawans and Japanese should tell you something about the healing power of prayer.
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The only thing that'll save you is sex, and lots of itSyntaxVorlon wrote:The japanese drink very little red wine, and they are far less likely to die of heart attack than the British or the Americans, the Italians drink copious amounts of red wine and are far less likely to die of heart disease. The Japanese also eat far less fat and the French eat far more fat and are still healthier. So it isn't diet that's bad, its speaking English that kills you.Darth Wong wrote:The fact that life expectancy for North American Christians is about a decade shorter than life expectancy for heathen Okinawans and Japanese should tell you something about the healing power of prayer.
I don`t think that would help,people died while doing it.Trytostaydead wrote:The only thing that'll save you is sex, and lots of it
Increases white blood cells, improves the vascular system, you get a good work out, and its fun.
Your childish tantrums begin to irritate me. Please stop.Probly because of the excessive fat intake of typical Americans, but I'll bet the REAL reason is that God is a fucking racist misogynistic homophobic hate-spewing pig cunt who has the mentality of a four-year-old and wants to send everybody to Hell NOW NOW NOW RIGHT FUCKING FOOT-STOMPING HAIR-PULLING CHILDISH-TEMPER-TANTRUM NOW! But I don't believe in the fucktard, so he has no power over me. Neither do heathens, so they live longer. W00t!
