Proposition 23
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- Padawan Learner
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Proposition 23
Proposition 23 needs to be defeated. its passage, would devastate efforts by California to combat climate change. The proposition is being funded by out of state oil industry people who are using claims of lost jobs to wreck California legislation, which is the toughest in the world at controlling carbon emissions.
- Terralthra
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Re: Proposition 23
You might want to provide some context for those forum-readers who don't live in California.
To give a synopsis:
A year or two ago, the CA legislature passed a bill attempting to address climate change. It mandated a roll-back to 90s levels of carbon emission with a state cap and trade system. Proposition 23 is an initiative which would mandate a hold on this legislation until the unemployment falls below a certain benchmark, because business won't hire more people if they have to pay for their pollution, or something. It's being financed, by and large, by the oil industry. Even Republican legislators and the Governator are against it, which really tells you something.
To give a synopsis:
A year or two ago, the CA legislature passed a bill attempting to address climate change. It mandated a roll-back to 90s levels of carbon emission with a state cap and trade system. Proposition 23 is an initiative which would mandate a hold on this legislation until the unemployment falls below a certain benchmark, because business won't hire more people if they have to pay for their pollution, or something. It's being financed, by and large, by the oil industry. Even Republican legislators and the Governator are against it, which really tells you something.
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Re: Proposition 23
So vote against it? I'm not sure what you'd expect anyone who doesn't live inside California to do. Plenty of other states have all kinds of stupid laws to smack down like the new personhood for fetuses law fundies want to pass in Colorado.
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- Padawan Learner
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Re: Proposition 23
I was addressing this to members living in California. The proposition would really set back efforts to fight global warming.
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Re: Proposition 23
so someone from georgia is trying to influence us californication voters?

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- Terralthra
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Re: Proposition 23
Maybe you should re-think your outreach activities.Sean Mulligan wrote:I was addressing this to members living in California. The proposition would really set back efforts to fight global warming.
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Re: Proposition 23
Though to be fair to him, it doesn't really take much of an effort to post a few lines on SD.net for the potential of a few votes from those who do live in California. Taken by itself you wouldn't expect much of an effect, however if this is part of a broader effort to get people to vote with him it can't hurt, and requires very little effort on his part.Terralthra wrote:Maybe you should re-think your outreach activities.Sean Mulligan wrote:I was addressing this to members living in California. The proposition would really set back efforts to fight global warming.
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