OMG! Design the next USS ENTERPRISE (Offical Contest)

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That looks really good CSJM.

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Regardless of whether I make the horseshoe detachable, I am thinking I'll cover it with weapons, and put the impulse engines on the back of it. The upper saucer will be the primary habitat area, and will have lots of windows and maybe an arboretum.

Where should I put the bridge?
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Well, it's customary that the bridge is in the top, near the center of the saucer section. If you're going for an Enterprise look, that's where it should go.
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Hey CSJ - I was thinking that I love the rounded, sleeker look, but the indentation where the deflector dish is has two sharp points on either side...it just messes with the overall asthetic, I think. Any chance of integrating some smoothness there? just to make the deisgn more consistent throughout.
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If you mean the sharp points where it meets the outer rim, then that's intended. I didn't want to round off the saucer edge too much, and the sharpness you see is just the two polygons meeting. I probably could introduce some smoothness there, but it'd still look sharp from the side because that's the shape of the rim.

edit: by the way, the model manages to keep looking good after two consecutive metaform subdivisions, which is something of an achievement for me - a detailed model done with a single continuous mesh.
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Or mostly a single continuous mesh. Rim windows and the grille don't count. :)
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I must say I love the design, but I have an issue with the ball turrets. That recessed section around them looks like it would limit field of fire somewhat
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Eternal_Freedom wrote:I must say I love the design, but I have an issue with the ball turrets. That recessed section around them looks like it would limit field of fire somewhat

Yeah, but if he elevates that area, the ball turrets will look liked a WWII bomber. *barf* I say keep it.

Also - I am loving those nacelles.
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I swung way back the other direction, totally "Enterprise" Enterprise again. It has flavor though, just no originality.

All one object, just extrusion modeling and a smooth.

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I'm going to beef up the ass and legs. I'm still in a good position to be making major tweaks, so all suggestions are appreciated. :)
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Sorry, but that neck is horrible. Saucer looks nice, not to found of the engineering hull but...
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Knife wrote:Sorry, but that neck is horrible. Saucer looks nice, not to found of the engineering hull but...
Would slimming the neck on the front horizontal axis help? Like, it will be just as long and tall, but thinner?
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I think it's the way it goes back and then forward. It should flow into the engineering hull better.

IMHO the engineering hull could be a bit longer before the taper begins at the end. You need more mass to balance out the saucer. Not a lot more, though, but maybe get it closer to where the neck meets above.
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Phantasee wrote:I think it's the way it goes back and then forward. It should flow into the engineering hull better.

IMHO the engineering hull could be a bit longer before the taper begins at the end. You need more mass to balance out the saucer. Not a lot more, though, but maybe get it closer to where the neck meets above.
I want to do the back then forward as it hasn't been done before, and looks rather like a serpent's neck poised to strike, but let me try to make it work better.

I had considered giving it a long horizontal tail, like a velociraptor. If nothing else, I'll stretch the whole secondary hull back a bit.
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Drawing on my screenshot in photoshop:

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looks like....a carrier or something...like the buttspike is the runway.
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Chardok wrote:looks like....a carrier or something...like the buttspike is the runway.
I could run with it and put the shuttle bay where the neck meets the tail. I could even add runway lights and such.
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I was thinking something like this, based on your last shot:
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Fuzzy_Modem wrote:
Chardok wrote:looks like....a carrier or something...like the buttspike is the runway.
I could run with it and put the shuttle bay where the neck meets the tail. I could even add runway lights and such.
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Phantasee wrote:I was thinking something like this, based on your last shot:
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Your right, the underside of the secondary hull needs to be pulled back just like that.

Did you change anything else?
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Nope.
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Phantasee wrote:Nope.
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I thought the Federation didn't do fighters? That was a...Volon(?) thing. I suppose it is THE FUTURE, though....
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Chardok wrote:I thought the Federation didn't do fighters? That was a...Volon(?) thing. I suppose it is THE FUTURE, though....
Shuttles mostly. Sometimes small attack craft, but rarely. We're still talking about the runway right?
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Yeah, referring to using that ENT as an attack carrier for fighters and stuffs...OOH maybe it can carry DEFIANTS!!


anyway, dawgs, make THIS:

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Better.

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LOL I can't imagine a SF carrier that launches Defiants! It would be huge!
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Phantasee wrote:LOL I can't imagine a SF carrier that launches Defiants! It would be huge!
What if it just carried two Defiants, and maybe a dozen little "delta flyer" size strike fighters?

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