OMG! Design the next USS ENTERPRISE (Offical Contest)

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Following the progression of your design from first concepts to this, I really have to say, it looks amazing! You're really coming to a good, traditional, yet sleek and deadly look! And I think you successfully managed to capture that dragon look with the neck by sweeping it further back into the engineering hull. It also makes the design look more aerodynamic (even though we're in spaaaaaaace) and integrated. Looks great from all angles!
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Wow, looks really good. I have to admit; I wasn't really that hot on it on the first few drafts and now it looks very excellent. Bringing up that neck on top of the saucer and elongating it on the engineering hull made a lot of difference, new front end looks great too.
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That's pretty nice. Really has an "Enterprise"-ish feel to it. The dual-slit collectors on the nacelles give a sort of a "supercar" feel as well.
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Something that occurred to me, and you can apply this or not, but might it be aesthetically feasible to round off the engineering hull around the main deflector? Instead of a right angle where the deflector ends, why not slant that back to allow for some parallelism with the sleek slant of the neck into the engineering hull. Do you think that's at all ideal, Fuzzy?
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The only reason I'm not submitting a design is because I want CSJM's to win.
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Yeah Fuzzy disregard my suggestion you found a better approach, its starting to look really good.

I hope the "Special tool" STO is launching December 9th isn't some cookie cutter editing tool that doesn't let you get your idea accross.

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Themightytom wrote: I hope the "Special tool" STO is launching December 9th isn't some cookie cutter editing tool that doesn't let you get your idea accross.
That thought never occurred to me. I'm assuming it's just a tool for uploading and viewing images of entries, possibly with a method of voting.
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Fuzzy: I have to say that I cannot believe how much this design has evolved - it's really quite amazing. The only real criticism I would submit at this point I feel like it's lost a bit of the "coiled snake striking" asthetic...I'm not artistically gifted enough to say why/how...I just feel like it's lost a little is all. Am I alone in that? I certainly don't mean to compromise your vision - it looks really, really good.
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Themightytom wrote: I hope the "Special tool" STO is launching December 9th isn't some cookie cutter editing tool that doesn't let you get your idea accross.
That thought never occurred to me. I'm assuming it's just a tool for uploading and viewing images of entries, possibly with a method of voting.
Since the point is to be creative I have a hard time believing they'd actually do anything to seriously hamper creativity. Especially considering the difficulty of implementing that kind of tool.
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It looks fantastic! Adjusting the bridge made a big difference, the saucer looks perfect now.
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open_sketchbook wrote:The only reason I'm not submitting a design is because I want CSJM's to win.
You can still put up your idea for all to admire.
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open_sketchbook wrote:The only reason I'm not submitting a design is because I want CSJM's to win.
You really don't think one entry out of thousands is going to have that big of an impact do you?
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General Zod wrote:
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Themightytom wrote: I hope the "Special tool" STO is launching December 9th isn't some cookie cutter editing tool that doesn't let you get your idea accross.
That thought never occurred to me. I'm assuming it's just a tool for uploading and viewing images of entries, possibly with a method of voting.
Since the point is to be creative I have a hard time believing they'd actually do anything to seriously hamper creativity. Especially considering the difficulty of implementing that kind of tool.
Unless the point is just to generate traffic...

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Themightytom wrote: Unless the point is just to generate traffic...
I'm sure it is, but they would generate more traffic with hundreds of original pieces of art, than by recreating the component-swap dynamic already in the game.

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I just added phaser banks. The long strippy kind. Two on the top of the saucer, on on the bottom of the saucer, and two small strips on either side of the secondary hull.

I didn't take screenshots before I left the house this morning, so here are some doodles:
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Any final suggestions before I lock in the shape/silhouette and start adding more fine detail?

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Pulse Phaser cannons aren't supported in the game, but I think I'm gonna add them anyway. They can ignore them, of make them into regular phasers like the Reliant's gun barrel style. Or do whatever they did with the Defiant's. Does the Ent-E have Pulse Phasers?

I'm thinking of hanging them from the underside of the saucer, like fangs, but I'll keep them small and subtle.
Prannon wrote:Something that occurred to me, and you can apply this or not, but might it be aesthetically feasible to round off the engineering hull around the main deflector? Instead of a right angle where the deflector ends, why not slant that back to allow for some parallelism with the sleek slant of the neck into the engineering hull. Do you think that's at all ideal, Fuzzy?
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Chardok wrote:The only real criticism I would submit at this point I feel like it's lost a bit of the "coiled snake striking" asthetic.
I agree, and I too am not sure how to get it back... I'll play around with the neck a bit more...
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Making useless details while pondering how to improve the model further:

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AHA! I see why I was thinking I'd seen it before! The nacelles/strust/split engineering areas remind me of the NX-01!
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The NX-01 was part of the inspiration, yes, but mostly for the deflector dish. The secondary hulls were supposed to reflect those of the (inverted) Akira, and the nacelles... I don't know, I just slapped them on where they most fit. :)

NX-01 is rather different though, especially in the rear, but it does have the twin secondary hull, which I actually forgot until I found a proper image of it:
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Nice interior CSJM
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Something else I whipped up for pondering purposes.
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My current to-do list for tonight:
Pulse Phasers
Shrink bridge 30%.
Concave ass.
Big hull segments modeled?
Thin saucer in all areas except neck.

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It would require a few steps back, but what if the nacelle struts sprouted from the "neck", rather than the "shoulders?"

To put it another way, instead of one neck piece and two strut pieces, what if the neck were all one Y shaped piece that connected everything?

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Kinda like this:
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I'd also like to come up with a more original nacelle design.
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Now with Nacelles.

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Listen, Zod, I don't want you to think I'm hating, but I'm with Chardok here: what exactly are you trying to do, here?
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Phantasee wrote:Listen, Zod, I don't want you to think I'm hating, but I'm with Chardok here: what exactly are you trying to do, here?
I'm making the most whacked design I can think of and still be vaguely federation. Essentially parallel universe Enterprise. :P
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Zod, I swear to Jeebus I'm going to punch you in the dick hole.

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