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AMBASSADOR, put up or shut up

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You sent your tripe to both my E-mail and this board. But nowhere have you explained any reasoning for your claims; you simply state the scientific failure of evolution as a fait accompli.

So put up or shut up, asshole. Present your evidence and reasoning against evolution and for creation.

First: define creation theory. Second: define evolution theory. Third: explain precisely how the former generates more accurate predictions than the latter.

Let's see what bullshit you try to spew when someone actually challenges you to back up your hot air.
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The thought of Creationism being on the same level of academic study adn credibility as evolution makes me want to a) puke b) forget my uni course and c) go postal on as many Fundies as possible before the cops get me.
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"Right now we can tell you a report was filed by the family of a 12 year old boy yesterday afternoon alleging Mr. Michael Jackson of criminal activity. A search warrant has been filed and that search is currently taking place. Mr. Jackson has not been charged with any crime. We cannot specifically address the content of the police report as it is confidential information at the present time, however, we can confirm that Mr. Jackson forced the boy to listen to the Howard Stern show and watch the movie Private Parts over and over again."
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Come forth Ambassador

Receive it
"Right now we can tell you a report was filed by the family of a 12 year old boy yesterday afternoon alleging Mr. Michael Jackson of criminal activity. A search warrant has been filed and that search is currently taking place. Mr. Jackson has not been charged with any crime. We cannot specifically address the content of the police report as it is confidential information at the present time, however, we can confirm that Mr. Jackson forced the boy to listen to the Howard Stern show and watch the movie Private Parts over and over again."
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Why would he want to be with a guy who stomps his feet into the floor and the other one pretends to fall when he touches his hair?
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I forgot how awesome that move looks. :D Applause. Wild applause!

I predict the following things:

Ambassador posts no answer to Mike's challenge. He instead dives right into any/all of the following horseshit:

1. 2nd Law of Thermodynamics
2. Something can't come from nothing.
3. All evolution has is time and chance.
4. YEC crap.
5. Rant on how the Bible is supreme scientific/moral authority.

Repeat until HoSed.
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Re: AMBASSADOR, put up or shut up

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Darth Wong wrote:You sent your tripe to both my E-mail and this board. But nowhere have you explained any reasoning for your claims; you simply state the scientific failure of evolution as a fait accompli.

So put up or shut up, asshole. Present your evidence and reasoning against evolution and for creation.

First: define creation theory. Second: define evolution theory. Third: explain precisely how the former generates more accurate predictions than the latter.

Let's see what bullshit you try to spew when someone actually challenges you to back up your hot air.
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AMBASSADOR! Come forth so that we might send thee to hell!
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If he doesn't show, threaten to ban his ass if he doesn't debate.

If he still doesn't... *glances over shoulder at big red "IP-BAN" button guarded by Imperial War Droids*
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Man, the fundie moron appeared when I was asleep.. :(

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This should be a laugh...
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FYIm Ambassador posted this and E-mailed it because several of us at SB.com encouraged him to do so after he questioned you in a thread over there. We told him that you would like to be confronted with these questions.

Ah, another sheep to the slaughter. :twisted:
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Alyeska wrote:FYIm Ambassador posted this and E-mailed it because several of us at SB.com encouraged him to do so after he questioned you in a thread over there. We told him that you would like to be confronted with these questions.
Hey! We send you all our used trolls, not the other way around.... :D
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He ignored the challenge, posted in the other thread, and presented a lot of standard creationist bullshit. At no point did he try to compare theoretical predictions; he only did the usual trick of saying "I don't see how the scientific theory explains X, therefore X proves creation theory".

Fucking chickenshit ...
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FM the bastard. :!: :evil:
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Well that was fast.
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Post by Gil Hamilton »

This will end badly for Ambassador. It's funny, on SB.com, he was going on about how no evolutionist would argue against creationists because the evolutions know they are wrong. Now he's surrounded on all sides and is in the unenviable position of either putting his money where his mouth is and getting crushed for all to see, or slinking away, probably accusing the lot of the people debating against him as being "mean" and "insulting" et cetera. I bet on the latter. It would be rather... uncharacteristic... of a standard Dipstick to actually debate when the opposition picks up the gauntlet they threw down and slaps them in the face.
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It seems to be that AMBASSADOR had erected a new kind of wall; a Wall of Cowardice, in which he refuses to debate anyone knowing full well he will lose, instead flinging insults at potential debaters and appealing to how badly he is treated by his debate opponents.
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AKA Style over substance fallacy. But he must be spectacularly stupid if he doesn't think it will be obvious to even the most casual observer who reads that thread.
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Post by Keevan_Colton »

Maybe he's made his choice and opted for shut up.....

*threepio*
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Alyeska wrote:FYIm Ambassador posted this and E-mailed it because several of us at SB.com encouraged him to do so after he questioned you in a thread over there. We told him that you would like to be confronted with these questions.

Ah, another sheep to the slaughter. :twisted:
Alyeska, that's just cruel. DO IT AGAIN! :D
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He came in here boldly stating that no evolutionist would dare debate a creationist. He probably believes that because his church routinely holds creation vs evolution discussions and nobody with a brain bothers showing up.

So he tried to test his hypothesis here, discovered to his chagrin that it wasn't true, and then adopted the standard fundie method of dealing with a blown hypothesis: ignore what just happened.
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Post by Larz »

Normal progression of a debate between a creationist and an evolutionist...

Creationist: "I challenge one and all. Come one, though we all know that no one will come forth to defend the hill billy theory of evilution"
*several hours of logic and idiocy commences*
Evolutionist: "What was your evidence for your point... again!"
Creationist: "What? Who are you?..."
Evolutionist: "I'm one of the many who have been trying to beat some sens..."
Creationist: "What? Mommy told me never to talk to strangers..."
Evolutionist:" What does that have to do with what we were debat..."
Creationist: *running and screamin* "I CAN'T HEAR YOU, LALALALA"
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