The War on Cameras

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Re: The War on Cameras

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Zaune wrote:Doesn't really matter if it's admissible in court these days. If it finds its way to YouTube or certain media outlets... well, who was it who said that a lie could be around the world before the truth has its boots on?

Wearable cameras would probably help with this problem, so long as it was possible to turn them off in situations when they were counter-productive or just unnecessary; quite apart from the fact that being recorded whilst simply asking for directions or exchanging pleasantries in the queue for Starbucks would make most people a bit nervous, eight hours of footage of which six are shots of the patrol car's dashboard would waste a lot of storage space. A log-file recording the exact times at which they were turned off and back on would be a good compromise.
Storage space is cheap, and becoming cheaper at a exponential rate. Also, you don't need to hold onto the videos indefinitely, but rather only for a year or so, unless someone comes up with a reason why that day's video needs to be reviewed, in which case you can hold onto it longer.

Let's assume that the camera is capable of recording with h.264, level 2.2. This is approximately 4 Mbit/s. This is sufficient for a 720x480 image, or roughly VGA. This is comparable to most current security cameras. Assuming a 12 hour shift, this would be approximately 21 GB of data. Seems unreasonably large, but you could fit that amount of data onto a decent smartphone easily. You'd most likely need to put it into 1/2 hour long chunks to read, but it's not actually a crazy amount of data nowadays. Multiply that by 1400 officers (example of a large city PD), and being on shift roughly 3 out of 6 days (common for 12 hour shift work), and you've got about 5 petabytes of data. Seems excessive? Storing the data on Amazon S3, and you're looking less than half a million dollars a month. Naturally, you'd probably not be storing the data on S3, but you're probably not looking at greater than that amount for doing it in house. You'd almost certainly be looking at paying significantly less than that.

This is also a very pessimistic estimate of the data required. You could have the camera automatically reduce frame rate when in a patrol car, for example. As for video taken while they're in the bathroom. *shrug* the camera shouldn't have the field of view to be able to view their junk. It'd likely be on their chest anyways, as a mostly anonymous bit of kit that has a lens embedded.
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Re: The War on Cameras

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Fair point as far as storage space goes, but the ability to turn it off with good cause would still be useful; some witnesses might be extremely reluctant to talk on the record without taking legal advice, and it would be highly inappropriate to leave the camera running when dealing with a victim of an indecent assault where cameraphones are involved.
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Zaune wrote:Fair point as far as storage space goes, but the ability to turn it off with good cause would still be useful; some witnesses might be extremely reluctant to talk on the record without taking legal advice, and it would be highly inappropriate to leave the camera running when dealing with a victim of an indecent assault where cameraphones are involved.
In some states it might run afoul of laws that require all parties to consent to being recorded prior to doing so when there's reasonable privacy expectations. If the police were knocking on doors to ask questions, for example.
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Sorry if this is a bit late to add to the thread, but:

[url=http://www.taser.com/products/law/Pages/TASERCAM.aspx]Taser has already looked at the problem and solved it as far as their products go.[/ur]

The thing is a small webcam monted underside, workable in dark and activates every time the weapon is. It would not be impossible to make more systems on similar princibles: have the camera on top of the car turn on only if the siren is turned on too.
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Zixinus wrote:Sorry if this is a bit late to add to the thread, but:

[url=http://www.taser.com/products/law/Pages/TASERCAM.aspx]Taser has already looked at the problem and solved it as far as their products go.[/ur]

The thing is a small webcam monted underside, workable in dark and activates every time the weapon is. It would not be impossible to make more systems on similar princibles: have the camera on top of the car turn on only if the siren is turned on too.
The cops don't have to use a taser in order to beat you into a bloody pulp and otherwise violate your rights.
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