OMG! Design the next USS ENTERPRISE (Offical Contest)

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What do you think the chances are they'll pick something Defiant sized like this?

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Slim to nill. The Big E is supposed to be the "federation Flagship" the best and most awesome ship in the fleet. Always pushing the frontiers and exploring crazy new shit. Something that small probs wouldn't have the endurance.

And besides, it looks like a cross between a Defiant and a runabout, not a great and powerful explorer
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The sad part is that the best ship won't get picked because the artist is Canadian.

Maybe DJ Curtis could move to the US for a month?
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My entry is up and I've created a new thread here:
http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=147032

I'm hoping to use this thread for my physical model wips now, if everyone is cool with that, and we'll talk about the contest in the new thread:)
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I think your design looks pretty damn good. But something about the saucer looks just a little too blocky for my tastes.
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Yeah, the raised sections toward the rear of the saucer are rather bulbous and weird.
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The animation is up in the vote thread!:
http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=147032
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Disagree. I think you're both on crack. I feel like the saucer section integrates quite nicley into the design. It's just the right amount of old-school Enterprise and new-school design. It's shows a very good understanding of the evolution of the ship. It's not such a radical departure as to make it ZOMG ENT-J and not so conservative as to be "Oh look, ENT-A w/smooth *snore*"

I'm a big fan, canyatell?
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I'll start puttying over it this weekend.
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That looks pretty awesome. Surprisingly good detail for a rapid-prototyping thingy. Just reinforces my voting for you ship fuzzy!
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I like the Calloway design on the previous page. Very cool looking.
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For me it's a toss-up between Calloway, Brooks and Fuzzy_Modem's designs - though the coolness of an actual physical model to look at puts FM's over the top, I think.
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I've read through the rules maybe a dozen times now, and I'm confident that the "Assets" that may not be used elsewhere are existing Star Trek assets, like if you wanted to use a sovereign for scale. The "Submission Image" must be created originally for the this contest specifically, but the rules say nothing about posting it, or wips elsewhere afterword. Now that the submission period has closed, I can restore my wip images to this thread. I couldn't find them all, but you should still be able to see the design evolve. Thanks again for all your help :)
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Voting has closed and I am in 1st place!!!
http://www.startrekonline.com/enterpris ... lter=rated
The judges could still override this decision, so I haven't won yet- but THANK YOU ALL for your support! I love you guys!

Winner is announced in April. It's gonna be a loooong wait...
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Congratulations, you were first by no slim margin either and third place is pretty far back. I really think you have a shot at this so I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.
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What a shame because that is just awful.
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Any chance of an explanation there Flagg?
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Eternal_Freedom wrote:Any chance of an explanation there Flagg?

I can explain: Flaggissick.jpg

That's all you need to know.

Fuzzy - giant congratulations, you certainly deserve to win - like I said your ENT is MILES better than the competition!
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Eternal_Freedom wrote:Any chance of an explanation there Flagg?
Aside from the fact that it looks like it belongs 3 decades before TNG even started? The ugly assed hull breakup, shuttlebay, just... UGH.
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Flagg wrote:
Eternal_Freedom wrote:Any chance of an explanation there Flagg?
Aside from the fact that it looks like it belongs 3 decades before TNG even started? The ugly assed hull breakup, shuttlebay, just... UGH.
3 Decades isn't that much. Are you suggesting it belongs in the same time as the Enterprise C?

"ugly assed" isn't a useful critique for an artist. Perhaps you can describe it in either aesthetic (shapes, shading and lighting) or logistical (engineering and construction) terms?

Can you link to some other contest entries to show us what qualities you prefer? I just posted a bunch of examples here:
http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic. ... 4#p3461094
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Fuzzy_Modem wrote:
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Eternal_Freedom wrote:Any chance of an explanation there Flagg?
Aside from the fact that it looks like it belongs 3 decades before TNG even started? The ugly assed hull breakup, shuttlebay, just... UGH.
3 Decades isn't that much. Are you suggesting it belongs in the same time as the Enterprise C?

"ugly assed" isn't a useful critique for an artist. Perhaps you can describe it in either aesthetic (shapes, shading and lighting) or logistical (engineering and construction) terms?

Can you link to some other contest entries to show us what qualities you prefer? I just posted a bunch of examples here:
http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic. ... 4#p3461094

Ugly assed is as good as you're gonna get, because "turd glued onto another turd roughly shaped like another turd" seemed rude.

If I had to pick one out of all of the either out-there in fugly land, or derivative POS entries it would be Adam Schimpfs.
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Flagg wrote:
Ugly assed is as good as you're gonna get, because "turd glued onto another turd roughly shaped like another turd" seemed rude.

If I had to pick one out of all of the either out-there in fugly land, or derivative POS entries it would be Adam Schimpfs.
I believe you are fully capable of communicating effectively without being insulting. I also believe you haven't tried yet, which is unfortunate, because I would appreciate a good critique, and you might have something valuable to say. I'd appreciate it if you'd give it another try.

I like Schimpf's as well. It's lovely, though it seems like it would fit into an alternate ToS universe (an alternative to Abrams), rather than post TNG.
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The underside ass-end looks like an excelsior, the break between saucer and engineering hull looks bad. It just overall looks like a background ship used for fill-in sopace as opposed to the flagship of the federation. Inelegant is a word I'd use. The thing is just godawful.
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Flagg wrote:The underside ass-end looks like an excelsior, the break between saucer and engineering hull looks bad. It just overall looks like a background ship used for fill-in sopace as opposed to the flagship of the federation. Inelegant is a word I'd use. The thing is just godawful.
That was better, and the excelsior reference makes sense given your perception of it's place in the timeline. "Inelegant" is a very good descriptor. Thank you :)

Can you elaborate a little more on the connection between the saucer and engineering hull? It's an aspect this worries me at times, because it's rather unprecedented, depending on how you look at it.

Rather than mounting the nacelle struts on the saucer, I'd like to think I've back filled and consolidated the area between the neck and struts. Would you concur?

I suppose the way I look at it is that the top of the neck is still part of the engineering section that then intersects both the saucer and nacelle struts, rather than being engineering below saucer below nacelles, but I may not have illustrated that effectively. Should I have pushed the saucer forward (possibly shrinking it slightly) and indicated a more significant seam or distinction between the hull shapes?
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