Female Doctor

[Eternal_Freedom]

^That actually sounds like a reasonable concept. As you said, have ti be the alt-universe version. Heck, even the parallel-universe version so events and backstory can remain the same (Same Galifrey, same enemies, same Time War if you really want).

If anybody did such a concept, I would at least be willing to watch it.

[Stark]

Are you serious? It sounds terrible. American shows struggle when they aren't obvious fanfiction.

I'd watch it, because train wrecks are funny.

[Eternal_Freedom]

The concept he came up with would not necessarily have to be American. And if it was done well with the right actress and so on, it could be quite interesting.

[Stark]

Yeah, a TV show about assholes with no continuity sounds fantastic, especially if written by the kind of cretin who uses words like 'doctress' (staggeringly sexist as they are).

[jollyreaper]

Yeah, a TV show about assholes with no continuity sounds fantastic, especially if written by the kind of cretin who uses words like 'doctress' (staggeringly sexist as they are).

Actually, I think it could be quite a bit of fun. There were some laughs with the gender role reversal parallel universe episode in Red Dwarf. Aside from the obvious joke of the Cyberwomen it would also be the case of the Doctress picking up male companions to be arm-candy and the clashing expectations as for exactly what role they should take.

And as for the whole title thing, we still use actress which isn't considered to be sexist. Royal titles still go by duchess, baroness, lady, etc. The only reason why we don't use negress anymore is because the word negro has been deprecated.

By making it a spin-off with a different character from the Doctor proper, it remains a separate show without mucking with the other show's character. It's possible to make good shows in America, truly. Direct adaptations have been kind of rubbish but that's partially because there's no need; if the British show is good, why not just air the British show? It's not like you have the argument about Americans refusing to read subtitles and dubbing being no good. It's not like you can say British production values aren't up to scratch in this day and age.

[jollyreaper]

The concept he came up with would not necessarily have to be American. And if it was done well with the right actress and so on, it could be quite interesting.

It could very well be done as a British show but it would be really the example of the sort of thing the skiffy channel should be funding instead of wrestling.

And the main reason to call her the doctress instead of the doctor is because there's only one doctor -- that is, depending on how you do your counting.

[Patrick Degan]

And the main reason to call her the doctress instead of the doctor is because there's only one doctor -- that is, depending on how you do your counting.

But that's really not a good enough reason to use such a gender-specfic and rather redundant title, and one which is not in common usage in any case. Call her the Doctor. So what if she's not the "one and only"? You're needlessly limiting your own imagination, especially given the conditions you've laid out about the character being unstuck in time and with a fluid future.

[Stark]

Is there even a point linking the character to the Doctor at all? It's clearly someone totally different. So... I guess it's just branding/fanfic nonsense.

[Revy]

Anyone remember when America did their own version of Red Dwarf? Yeah, me neither, that's how bad it was. I only even know about it because of Chuck's RD reviews.

Besides, good or bad, even if they did do such a spin-off, it'd wind up on the SyFy channel, run for about twelve episodes and then get cancelled. After being put at a stupid timeslot no less. At the moment American television is utterly incapable of keeping a sci-fi show going for any length of time.

[jollyreaper]

I'm just having fun with the premise of the topic. Any of you guys have better ideas?

[Rossum]

Lets see:

The old series had the Valeard who was supposed to be an evil regeneration who takes place near the end of the Doctors life span. He had somehow joined up with a corrupt Time Lord government in order to find the Doctor guilty in a trial. The Time Lords could use this to cover up some of their own actions and the Valeard would somehow get the remainder of the Doctors regenerations when he was executed. The Valeard is thus some kind of hypothetical future doctor who could be retconned out of existance easily.

The Dream Lord in one of the recent episodes was the Doctors evil subconcious side manifest due to some psychic spores.

Then there was the copy of the Doctor who grew out of the doctors severed hand when Donna touched it during a failed regeneration. He's now half-human and lives in the parallel universe with Rose.

Then there is the Doctors Daughter (haven't watched that episode myself).

Then in the old series the episode where the fourth Doctor picked up Leela had a supercomputer that had bits of the Doctors personality written into it during a previous adventure (that I don't know about). The Doctor had to access it again to repair its faulty personality.

And then in the episode where the forth doctor 'died' there was a recurring shadowy figure who kept appearing to help the group out and who entered the doctor when he regenerated into the fifth doctor. Probably another hypothetical alternate docor regeneration thing that its probably best not to think about.

Oh, and the episode where the forth doctor and leela picked up K-9 had a part where they created microscopic clones of themselves to travle inside the Doctors own head to kill off a sapient microbe (cause if there's one way to kill off a super virus it is to shrink down into your own head and have a kick-ass hunter woman stab it in the face with a knife... except the Doctor clone just sort of talked at it for a bit and let it walk out of the real doctors head). Both of those clones disintegrated due to their temporary nature.


Soo... you could have all sorts of crazy stuff happen to justify a female doctor for an episode without making it 'official'. Imperfect clone... a manipulative future incarnation who is trying to keep the doctor alive long enough to turn him into herself (hey, maybe since each reincarnation is a response to the previous one then she'd try manipulating the current doctor so he regenerates into her... cue brain explosions). Or a clone of the doctor who was created somehow so the Time Lord race could be repopulated... except both the male and female doctors think its gross and team up on whoever tried that experiment in the first place (probably an evil time lord trapped in the time war). Or one of the doctors enemies creates an evil female doctor clone to fight on their side and counter the normal doctors moves.

So female doctor is created, the two maybe fight eachother for a bit until the find out whats happening, they find out who's responsible (unless the female doctor herself is responsible somehow) and then they team up to fight a big scary monster/villain. Then the female doctor either dies heroically or gets put on a bus where she won't mess with the shows dynamic.

[mr friendly guy]

Lets see:

The old series had the Valeard who was supposed to be an evil regeneration who takes place near the end of the Doctors life span. He had somehow joined up with a corrupt Time Lord government in order to find the Doctor guilty in a trial. The Time Lords could use this to cover up some of their own actions and the Valeard would somehow get the remainder of the Doctors regenerations when he was executed. The Valeard is thus some kind of hypothetical future doctor who could be retconned out of existance easily.

That was an alternate time line damn it. I mean the Valeyard must have been from an alternative time line, otherwise his plot would make no sense.

Then in the old series the episode where the fourth Doctor picked up Leela had a supercomputer that had bits of the Doctors personality written into it during a previous adventure (that I don't know about). The Doctor had to access it again to repair its faulty personality.

That previous adventure was not shown, it obviously occurred in between stories.

And then in the episode where the forth doctor 'died' there was a recurring shadowy figure who kept appearing to help the group out and who entered the doctor when he regenerated into the fifth doctor. Probably another hypothetical alternate docor regeneration thing that its probably best not to think about.

The novels explain it away as a psychic manifestation of the Time Lord's power. Don't look at me, I didn't write this stuff.

Oh, and the episode where the forth doctor and leela picked up K-9 had a part where they created microscopic clones of themselves to travle inside the Doctors own head to kill off a sapient microbe (cause if there's one way to kill off a super virus it is to shrink down into your own head and have a kick-ass hunter woman stab it in the face with a knife... except the Doctor clone just sort of talked at it for a bit and let it walk out of the real doctors head). Both of those clones disintegrated due to their temporary nature.

The invisible enemy. And there is a bit more to what you described. The Doctor's clone was starting to disentegrate (due to the imperfect duplicate procedure which allows them to clone him in like a few minutes), and he tried to blast the virus, who managed to escape via the tear duct (by delaying the Doctor and talking to him it bought the virus time). However the Leela clone disentegrated, but her antibody (she was immune to the virus and at that time it was not known why), was assimilated by the Doctor, making him immune.

So female doctor is created, the two maybe fight eachother for a bit until the find out whats happening, they find out who's responsible (unless the female doctor herself is responsible somehow) and then they team up to fight a big scary monster/villain. Then the female doctor either dies heroically or gets put on a bus where she won't mess with the shows dynamic.

Is that bus reference an in joke? Because there is a character in the DW EU who is meant to be a sort of literary foil for the Doctor. A female Time Lady who does similar things to the Doctor, whose TARDIS is disguised as a bus etc. Unfortunately it malfunctioned so its smaller on the inside than the outside. And I wished she was killed off during the Time War.

[Eternal_Freedom]

I thought it was a reference to Lady Caroline de Souza from "Planet of the Dead" but I could be wrong.

[Revy]

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PutOnABus

Basically, it's a trope used by writers to get rid of a character by having them leave the show without getting killed off. As in they 'get on a bus' and leave to go somewhere else, and are no longer involved in the story. Leaves open the possibility of bringing them back at a later date.

[hongi]

whose TARDIS is disguised as a bus etc.

Ms Frizzle from The Magic School Bus. Don't tell me you've never thought of it.

[Rossum]

Yeah, the "put on a bus" bit was from TVtropes. Basically letting the hypothetical female Docotor go on to do other things without messing up the dynamic of the regular Doctor and his companions. That way the shows writers could bring her back later if the idea has merit.