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Looks like OP kept the upgrades. Looks interesting. :) Wish I could afford seeing it when it comes out. :(
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Unless I have really good motivation, I think I'm gonna pass. TF2 burned me out on Michael Bay's 'wacky comedy'.
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I wanted some fucking Unicron.
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If Optimus did keep the Jetfire upgrades, he re-purposed them into his trailer - that's what his 'jetpack' actually is, components of his trailer wrapped around his body.
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If anyone is really obsessive and wants a frame-by-frame of that crazy-quick teaser, TFW2005.com has it.

Long story short: OP's jet-form only seems to match the smallest of the new toys he's getting, and the Decepticons are largely clones (sometimes recolored) of guys killed in the previous films. Oh, and if you squint at one of the frames you can see what is probably Shockwave.

Anyway, I like that they are actually showing a large-scale attack on Earth, instead of RotF's cocktease followed by "grr we decepticons are a dozen-strong mob who's never heard of aircraft."
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Did I see Laserbeak?

Also, pictures of the Shockwave toy have been released. I'm impressed with the design. Always loved Shockwave.

My hopes for a decent plot were severely damaged by TF1 and utterly crushed by TF2. I'm not expecting much on that front. But Bay has at least provided some really awesome giant-fighting-robot porn, with the advantage of drawing from a wellspring of nostalgia. Like TF2, I anticipate I'll see it, and rant about how terrible the plot is, and secretly love everything that reminds me of the 80s cartoon or the IDW comics.
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You guys who've been burned over TF2 shouldn't neccesarily be; you have to remember that it was basically written on the go because of the writer's strike, and the final result didn't really represent what anyone wanted out of the film. Obviously this one wasn't written during a writer's strike, and all the cast members who have been asked about the script say that it's at least better than the first one. Bay himself has said a few times that he's trying to "make up" for TF2 in this film, specifically with less hurrdurr comedy.

Of course, it could be absolute poop and everyone's just cheering it on so that it will do well, but it's not looking like TF2 has set the standard for the third one, at least.
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Well, I must say that I'm intrigued, and if Bay's trying to make up for TF2 than at least it may be watchable.

I also wonder if they're going to tone down the US-military wank this time around. It'd certainly fit what we're seeing here.
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I like that Shockwave is purple. That's obviously important :)

But yeah, I clearly saw a clone of Brawl (the tank Decepticon) from the first movie there.

Also, Megatron's toy looks pretty cool. He's Spoiler
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Vympel wrote:I like that Shockwave is purple. That's obviously important :)

But yeah, I clearly saw a clone of Brawl (the tank Decepticon) from the first movie there.

Also, Megatron's toy looks pretty cool. He's Spoiler
a petrol tanker, and his face is different since getting half of it shot off by Optimus in RotF.
I disagree, I'm absolutely not a fan of Megatron. Of course, I didn't like the other two designs for him either.

Bay's designs have been very hit or miss. Prime is amazing. I thought I'd hate the whole flames motif before the first film was released, but at this point I think the Bay Prime is one of the best versions, aside from good old G1. Megatron and Starscream, some of my favorite G1 characters, are horribly designed in the Bay movies by comparison.

Hell, just referring ot the toys, the TF3 Voyager prime looks awful, and most of the other toys Ive seen leaked had giant "what the hell is that?!" weapons stuck to the top of their vehicle modes. They look ungainly, completely out of place, and frankly stupid. Shockwave is the only toy mold Ive seen so far that I actually like.
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I agree that the Voyager-class toys for DOTM look pretty crap, but that's been my opinion with all of the TF-movie toys with the exception of the Leader-class, which are the only ones I collect* (I also collect War for Cybertron toys, but we've only seen four of them released here in Australia - Optimus, Bumblebee, Megatron and Soundwave. That's it).

To be more accurate, I think Megatron's design as seen in the toy form looks cool to me, even though his Voyager-class toy looks meh. I don't know why they've gone with this weird "every Voyager-class toy must have an enormous oversized weapon".

*The original movie Leader class toys were average, though I think Leader-class Brawl was a standout toy. I didn't bother getting the recent re-release of RotF OP with his 'energon hooks', just not worth it. But Leader-class Starscream released at the same time is an excellent toy, and Bumblebee was pretty decent too.
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(I also collect War for Cybertron toys, but we've only seen four of them released here in Australia - Optimus, Bumblebee, Megatron and Soundwave. That's it).
Don't fret, those are the only four molds, and the only toy you're missing is Cliffjumper.

The oversized weapon thing is in all the Deluxes, Voyagers, and Leaders in the line. It's called "MechTech." Slightly daft, but hey, big accessories you can set aside if you don't like > something that compromises the toy itself. In fact, MechTech lets them build the Leaders without internal electronics; they are in the guns.
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Anguirus wrote: Don't fret, those are the only four molds, and the only toy you're missing is Cliffjumper.
Oh yeahhh, I thought I had seen a different coloured Bumblebee, but of course I didn't spring for it (reusing molds and just changing the colour or at best the face, like they did with that other Generations toy, the self-propelled howitzer Decepticon is really fucking low).

How they could not do a Starscream toy is beyond me.
The oversized weapon thing is in all the Deluxes, Voyagers, and Leaders in the line. It's called "MechTech." Slightly daft, but hey, big accessories you can set aside if you don't like > something that compromises the toy itself. In fact, MechTech lets them build the Leaders without internal electronics; they are in the guns.
Cool. Though the Leader-class Bumblebee of DOTM doesn't look as good as the one released last year - it looks like they still haven't figured out a way to model his hand cannon whilst still giving him a normal right hand.
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If this film is even one tenth of the awfulness of RotF, I may not go and see it. The first film was ok, except I thought the humour was a bit childish (Bumblebee pissing over the Sector 7 guy, for example :roll: ), and the story was lame.

However, Michael Bay was clearly smoking some very rare herbs for the second film, it was like the first but strained through a filter that left all the good parts out and replaced them with bollocks. The racist robots, the appallingly confusing story, and the general way it, like the original, dropped to its knees and gave a blowjob to the US military.

HOPEFULLY, he's off that shit now, and can make up for RotF.
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I must be the only person who thought that #2 was only marginally worse than the first, which was itself terrible in many ways. Or maybe I'm just bad at distinguishing shades of abysmal from one another.
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Captain Spiro wrote:Aaaah who am I kidding, it's Michael Bay, his basic approach to filmmaking is MOAR EXPLOSHUNS!! MOAR!! MOAR PRODUKT PLACEMENTZ!! Fool.
Of course one has to wonder why you really expect anything more from a movie whose whole premise is giant fighting robots.
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I think its some sort of weird nostalgia that dresses up an extremely simplistic and quite dumb cartoon as some sort of work with artistic merit :lol:
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atg wrote:
Captain Spiro wrote:Aaaah who am I kidding, it's Michael Bay, his basic approach to filmmaking is MOAR EXPLOSHUNS!! MOAR!! MOAR PRODUKT PLACEMENTZ!! Fool.
Of course one has to wonder why you really expect anything more from a movie whose whole premise is giant fighting robots.
Giant robots? Where? They seem to have been lost amongst the terrible human drama, poor scripts and Megan Fox. :wink:
And Michael Bay's resume when it comes to films is not great. Armageddon, Pearl Harbor, and Transormers. Not someone I'd hire to direct a subtle, compelling and poetic romance drama. :mrgreen:
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atg wrote:
Captain Spiro wrote:Aaaah who am I kidding, it's Michael Bay, his basic approach to filmmaking is MOAR EXPLOSHUNS!! MOAR!! MOAR PRODUKT PLACEMENTZ!! Fool.
Of course one has to wonder why you really expect anything more from a movie whose whole premise is giant fighting robots.
The newer IDW comics had a much better plotline than the two Bay films.

I've read a few fanfics that managed to treat giant fighting robots seriously and compellingly.

It's not entirely unreasonable to expect more than Bay's treatment, it's possible to do justice to the source material without making the plot into a putrid mass of feces, but everybody knew that with a license like Transformers they could still make lots of money without even trying if they made it visually impressive enough.
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Oh yeahhh, I thought I had seen a different coloured Bumblebee, but of course I didn't spring for it (reusing molds and just changing the colour or at best the face, like they did with that other Generations toy, the self-propelled howitzer Decepticon is really fucking low).
Nah, it's not so bad. They are actually casting two heads for most new molds so they can get two retools out there, rather than just redecos, or spending more money later to retool. It doesn't work as well for the movie-verse, but in G1 there were a lot of characters who were retools or at least very similar. The molds are often designed now to represent two characters quite well. As for the morality of retools and redecos...for better or for worse, that's where the profit is. I'm not going to complain because TFs in the US have artificially low prices, lower than in the '80s accounting for inflation, and they've only gotten bigger and more complex. You, however, might have more cause to complain.

Cliffjumper's head looks cooler than BB's. For my collection I'm getting the upcoming rerelease of Earth-mode BB so BB and CJ can be different molds.

As for Skullgrin, the retool of Straxus (Darkmount), yeah he's a pretty big stretch. However it's a cool character with arguably better colors, and you can actually transform his weapon a bit differently (pitchfork instead of pickaxe...alternately you can use it as a handheld cannon). So it's a stretch, but $12 for a rank-filling, quirky Decepticon for my display isn't bad.

We are also getting an extremely extensive retool of Tracks into Wheeljack, who looks AWESOME. Not to mention another Junkion from Wreck-Gar...a mold that is designed to RIDE ITSELF just like in the 1986 movie.

WfC Starscream is heavily rumored. Especially since a designer said in an interview "If we do one more WfC, it will be Starscream." There's also a currently-mysterious listing for a Generations Starscream pulled out of the Walmart computer system.
Cool. Though the Leader-class Bumblebee of DOTM doesn't look as good as the one released last year - it looks like they still haven't figured out a way to model his hand cannon whilst still giving him a normal right hand.
Leader Bee is not for me. I can't stand blatantly fucked scale (I know I know, I'm in the wrong hobby). However I'm eager for the robot mode reveal of the firetruck, Spoiler
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Also, Battle Blade Bumblebee (a Deluxe) has the best cannon-to-hand conversion. The cannon looks a little weak but that's duet o no paint, not bad engineering.
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As for Skullgrin, the retool of Straxus (Darkmount), yeah he's a pretty big stretch. However it's a cool character with arguably better colors, and you can actually transform his weapon a bit differently (pitchfork instead of pickaxe...alternately you can use it as a handheld cannon). So it's a stretch, but $12 for a rank-filling, quirky Decepticon for my display isn't bad.
The Straxus/Skullgrin mold is one of my recent favorites. I don't typically pick up repaints, and I till didn't in this instance (I grabbed Skullgrin, I agree the colors are better by far), but that mold is amazing - so much articulation, and an extremely satisfying transformation with well-made vehicle and robot modes.
WfC Starscream is heavily rumored. Especially since a designer said in an interview "If we do one more WfC, it will be Starscream." There's also a currently-mysterious listing for a Generations Starscream pulled out of the Walmart computer system.
If they do WFC Starscream, in all likelihood they'll repaint the mold for Skywarp et al.

If they do that, I'll break my usual "no repaints" rule.

WFC had some amazing designs (I grabbed Megatron and Bumblebee). I've seen a custom scratch-built WFC Trypticon that I wish I could duplicate...but even restricted to just the "normal" characters, I would LOVE to see all of the remaining playable characters released, including the pre-order exclusives. WFC Shockwave was pretty cool, after all. I'd totally also pick up the remaining tanks (Brawl and Warpath). Autobot jets weren't bad either, and I always love a well-designed Jetfire. God that game is good.
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Anguirus wrote: Nah, it's not so bad. They are actually casting two heads for most new molds so they can get two retools out there, rather than just redecos, or spending more money later to retool. It doesn't work as well for the movie-verse, but in G1 there were a lot of characters who were retools or at least very similar. The molds are often designed now to represent two characters quite well. As for the morality of retools and redecos...for better or for worse, that's where the profit is. I'm not going to complain because TFs in the US have artificially low prices, lower than in the '80s accounting for inflation, and they've only gotten bigger and more complex. You, however, might have more cause to complain.

Cliffjumper's head looks cooler than BB's. For my collection I'm getting the upcoming rerelease of Earth-mode BB so BB and CJ can be different molds.

As for Skullgrin, the retool of Straxus (Darkmount), yeah he's a pretty big stretch. However it's a cool character with arguably better colors, and you can actually transform his weapon a bit differently (pitchfork instead of pickaxe...alternately you can use it as a handheld cannon). So it's a stretch, but $12 for a rank-filling, quirky Decepticon for my display isn't bad.
$12.00? Cheapest I can get the things here for is $25.00. How fucking annoying. Anyway I only grab Leader-class and WfC toys. The problem I have with TF toys in general is that there's no unifying theme. There's too many seperate toy lines, and its just annoying. Star Wars toys are almost as bad but at least I can satisfy myself with just picking up the Vintage Collection action figures.
Leader Bee is not for me. I can't stand blatantly fucked scale (I know I know, I'm in the wrong hobby). However I'm eager for the robot mode reveal of the firetruck
Hmmm, I thought it'd be Ultra Magnus. I don't know whow that spoiler-tagged guy is.
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$12.00? Cheapest I can get the things here for is $25.00. How fucking annoying.
I feel bad for all non-US collectors. Toy pricing is fucked because they need moms to buy toys for kids. Moms don't like spending more than fifty whatevers on a toy, so unless they are huge monster big ticket items they've got to be in the $10-$50 range. Know what they go for in England? 10-50 POUNDS, which is like a 200% markup.

In Japan the market is very different, so they are sold for more. Not that much more though, considering that it's Japan. They release more expensive (Masterpiece) items and collector-focused lines (more paint and chrome on the same figs basically).

Anyone in a secondary market like you is a little fucked. I hear it's worse in Latin America though, or Northern Europe.
The problem I have with TF toys in general is that there's no unifying theme. There's too many seperate toy lines, and its just annoying.
It's not that hard to keep track of. These days there always seems to be a movie line (though that may end shortly), a TV show line if there's one going, and a "Classics" line, which keeps getting resurrected under different names, like Generations. I got hooked by the RotF toys but I'm mostly a classics kid now.

The one mildly confusing thing is that ALL the new molds getting released between now and July are Classics-style, but to appease the big box retailers, about 50% of them are running in the sequel to the RotF line. But that's more of a catch-all line than a strictly movie line anyway, and the toys marked "Reveal the Shield" are absolutely Classics like Wreck-Gar and Perceptor.

My theory (which is borne out by an interview or two) is that the designers over in Japan fucking love making new Classics so Hasbro has to keep figuring out ways to release them. They claim that Generations is now going to run as a side-line for the foreseeable future. The mainline will be movie 3, then switch to Transformers Prime.

A few figures that work well for Classics seem to sneak into other lines. RotF Bludgeon is obviously G1 Bludgeon, and Animated Arcee is pretty good as G1 Arcee (but rumor is that Generations is releasing a new one).

As for who the spoiler-tagged guy is, Spoiler
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Really liked TF2. Except for the Twins. Yeah. And everything to do with Wittwicky and his parents. And the former secret agent guy.

...you know, they need to release a director's cut version with just the 'splosions. :)
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