Resisting the superlaser.

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Re: Resisting the superlaser.

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Luzifer's right hand wrote:The shields used to protect the swarms(mobile star clusters) from Perry Rhodan can take the impacts of star systems moving at 0.5 c which should enable them to resist something like the DS superlaser.
Shouldn't the normal Paratron provide enough protection, just shunting the shot off into hyperspace?


Another one would be the various vessels of Servey Snegov's People Like Gods, by about time of the second novel, due to their space manipulation abilities.
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Jawawithagun wrote: Shouldn't the normal Paratron provide enough protection, just shunting the shot off into hyperspace?
I know what you mean but Paratron shields have never been used to protect against energy of that magnitude in the series. Brute force was never an effective way to overwhelm shields in the series, it was always more advanced technobabble and this site is all about proof after all.
The use of a super-giant star at 0.5 c was considered pointless against system paratron shields but those are way more powerful than ship mounted ones(more correctly the energies available to a faction with the ability to accelerate thousands of stars to that velocity was thought not enough but never demonstrated).
There are a few numbers for shields in the series, the lowest known is 9,1*10^29 W/m² for a Galaxis-class ship(all shield layers combined) which might not be enough to take a superlaser shot(deepening on the area the beam covers).
Jawawithagun wrote: Another one would be the various vessels of Servey Snegov's People Like Gods, by about time of the second novel, due to their space manipulation abilities.
I second that.
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Sriad wrote:I went to the planetary property calculators and at the extreme-high Saturn end a lot depends on what Unicron's physical reaction to being hit with an ungodly amount of energy is. The superlaser doesn't pack enough punch to overcome the gravitational binding energy or melt energy of a planet that size, even allowing for the fact that there's a lot of empty space in him, but it would leave a crater some tens of thousands of kilometers across in planet mode
What did you input? With Saturn's size and density of iron (12.5 G input) I only got 2.5E37 GBE - a quarter of the superlaser.
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Omeganian wrote:
Sriad wrote:I went to the planetary property calculators and at the extreme-high Saturn end a lot depends on what Unicron's physical reaction to being hit with an ungodly amount of energy is. The superlaser doesn't pack enough punch to overcome the gravitational binding energy or melt energy of a planet that size, even allowing for the fact that there's a lot of empty space in him, but it would leave a crater some tens of thousands of kilometers across in planet mode
What did you input? With Saturn's size and density of iron (12.5 G input) I only got 2.5E37 GBE - a quarter of the superlaser.
I must have put an extra zero in somewhere. It really isn't Unicron's day, is it?
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Evil begets evil, mister Vader. Shooting will only make it stronger.

I'd expect the sphere of evil from the Fifth Element not only to withstand the Death Star blast, but also to eat the Death Star afterward.
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Feil wrote:Evil begets evil, mister Vader. Shooting will only make it stronger.

I'd expect the sphere of evil from the Fifth Element not only to withstand the Death Star blast, but also to eat the Death Star afterward.
Wow. Holy No limit fallacy batman !

Just where do you get this bright idea the sphere could adsorb any arbitrary amount of energy ? The sphere in the movie never even got shot with a weapon that is 0.001 % of a Star Destroyers turbolasers.

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I know the OP said ships, but out of curiosity, what would happen if they fired the superlaser at a typical G-type main sequence star (in other words, a star identical to the Sun)?

I imagine it would survive but that kind of it just can't be good for the star.
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It would cause something like a flare star I imagine.
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Eternal_Freedom wrote:I know the OP said ships, but out of curiosity, what would happen if they fired the superlaser at a typical G-type main sequence star (in other words, a star identical to the Sun)?

I imagine it would survive but that kind of it just can't be good for the star.

Well according to the calculations here:

http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Tec ... hStar.html

And the info found here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_ ... _and_above

You would be looking at around 10 days worth of solar output hitting the sun in a fraction of a second. If that energy was dissipated in the outer layers of the sun then you'd probably be looking at a fair amount of flare activity or CMEs but not much else. However if the energy pulse managed to make it straight down into the core, it might be possible that the extra energy would initiate a burst of extra fusion activity. Depending on the amount of extra fusion it might simply be absorbed by the outer layers of the sun...or it could blow the star apart. That's how Type 1a supernovas occur, a sudden acceleration of fusion resulting in a very big fireworks display.
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The Enterprise. Lasers can't penetrate its shields :P
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wautd wrote:The Enterprise. Lasers can't penetrate its shields :P
Navigational shields, mind! :lol:

But on the serious side, although a GP hull would survive (albeit with everything inside it getting squished), wouldn't the crew possibly survive if they were in crash couches?
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