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I know there were network politics involved, but the decision to move SGU to Tuesday still baffles me. Stargate goes together with Friday night television like Peanut Butter and Jelly.Themightytom wrote:At least moving it back to Friday and pairing it with being human will boost its ratings up. They must be hoping they can prove enough viewers watch it to justify something.
Yeah, Stargate's just been a rinse/repeat of [Insert new more powerful Alien threat] and [Insert even more over the top eleventh hour resolution]PREDATOR490 wrote: SG has been played to death and it becomes blatantly clear from SG-1 Season 8 forwards the shows have been continuing just for the sake of continuing. Rehashing old ground is not interesting nor is getting nothing but slow paced fillers that achieve nothing but waste time.
Agreed. In retrospect, the creation of the Ori wasn't needed even if it did give us the Ancients' origins.FedRebel wrote:SG-1's final seasons could've been better if instead of the Ori we had the SGC deal with the balkanization of the galaxy (every orphaned First Prime with pair creating his own little Empire) the Tok'Ra asserting themselves as a state and developing interests that come into conflict with Earth and the various Jaffa states, and that's the tip of the iceberg, with the Goa'uld gone every previously hermetic advanced civilization is eager to cut themselves a piece of the Galactic pie. And the SGC has to put up a more indepth budget fight to justify it's force size.
It seems they'll be repeating how The Sarah Connor Chronicles unfolded at the end, with the show kicking into high gear. It's interesting that both shows were canceled while in their second seasons.JME2 wrote:Sy Fy has released the promo for Season 2.5 and well...it looks good, but I love how they're playing this up as a grand ending -- it's not like they canceled the series mid-season before...oh wait...
I'd say that it was also the purists who wanted yet another Stargate retread (because two shows adhering to the same formula weren't enough, damn it!) that were also a factor. Sure Universe may have had its faults- namely pacing as well as the questionable treatment of female characters such as Ginn and Perry- but I liked the fact that they deviated from the extremely tired dynamic and showed just how hostile and desolate the universe could be (the lack of generic primitive village settings that plagued both SG-1 and Atlantis was refreshing).JME2 wrote: Anyway, the whole cancellation irks me.
Yeah, I know it wasn't pulling in the numbers they wanted, but neither was Caprica.
Again, I keep wondering if there were network politics going on behind the scenes. After all, they got a hold of SG-1 when the channel first started up and the franchise has been a major part of their line-up for 9 years. By canceling both shows, they just killed two of their major franchises -- or rather, one of them given they're already doing a 3rd BSG show.
So again, if this is the end, we have 354 episodes and 3 movies to re-watch and celebrate for many years to come.
As did I. SG-1 and SGA had had darker stories, but never like this and it was refreshing.Adrian McNair wrote:I'd say that it was also the purists who wanted yet another Stargate retread (because two shows adhering to the same formula weren't enough, damn it!) that were also a factor. Sure Universe may have had its faults- namely pacing as well as the questionable treatment of female characters such as Ginn and Perry- but I liked the fact that they deviated from the extremely tired dynamic and showed just how hostile and desolate the universe could be (the lack of generic primitive village settings that plagued both SG-1 and Atlantis was refreshing).JME2 wrote: Anyway, the whole cancellation irks me.
Yeah, I know it wasn't pulling in the numbers they wanted, but neither was Caprica.
Again, I keep wondering if there were network politics going on behind the scenes. After all, they got a hold of SG-1 when the channel first started up and the franchise has been a major part of their line-up for 9 years. By canceling both shows, they just killed two of their major franchises -- or rather, one of them given they're already doing a 3rd BSG show.
So again, if this is the end, we have 354 episodes and 3 movies to re-watch and celebrate for many years to come.
I can't say that a DTV movie would be my preferred option given the previous output. The Ark of Truth was average at best (they introduced a Replicator sub-plot that stole time away from the resolution of the main Ori story arc. The Ori crusaders were also dealt with in an unsatisfactory manner) and Continuum was just approaching okay (Ba'al was turned into a mere obstacle for Qetesh and the overall plot felt more like an extended episode than an actual movie).JME2 wrote:Gateworld has updates.
Season 3 taking place on another network is a no-go.
They're still talking with MGM, but any likelihood of a DTV movie(s) won't be known until around the time of the series finale.
Agreed; I'd actually rather see the SGA film at this point than an SGU film.If it were up to me there would be a ten to thirteen mini-season that would cut out all of the dead-weight and resolve most (if not all) of the lingering plot threads.
Though I have next to no enthusiasm for Atlantis at this point (and to be honest my interest levels weren't particular high when the series was coming to an end), I wouldn't mind seeing a movie where the expedition returns to Pegasus, forms an alliance with those rogue Asgard and exterminates the Wraith. After all, the title for the proposed film was meant to be Extinction.JME2 wrote: Agreed; I'd actually rather see the SGA film at this point than an SGU film.
There's an interesting piece by Eric Newport here about what was wrong with the SyFy network's treatment of Caprica and how its cancellation could have been avoided. I think he makes some decent points and it definitely relates to what happened with Universe.But who knows. Fan support for SGU's been building since the cancellation. If they get enough people watching and increase viewership enough, we may get a change of edict. Doubtful, but you never know.
It has? I thought opinions about it were still divided into three distinct camps- those who enjoy it, the ones who are ambivalent about it and the purists who, naturally, outright hate it.But who knows. Fan support for SGU's been building since the cancellation.
If Wright doesn't manage to work out something with MGM then we'll probably have to wait a few years before anything Stargate-related appears.However, Wright's gone on the record and stated that MGM considers Stargate one of their most important properties, it is to TV what the James Bond franchise is to film. In theory, it's in their interest to continue the franchise, but it depends if they decide the overall Stargate audience is still there and if the DTV market has recovered.
I concur. It has had a good run, far greater than many other sci-fi shows have had.Again, if this is the end of the franchise, we have 354 episodes and 3 movies. I'm not complaining.
Based on the title, it sounds like it'll involve Keller's gene therapy. Who knows if Todd passed it onto any other Wraith and we know what effect it had. It even seemed like they were setting it up with "Infection" during the closing stretch.Though I have next to no enthusiasm for Atlantis at this point (and to be honest my interest levels weren't particular high when the series was coming to an end), I wouldn't mind seeing a movie where the expedition returns to Pegasus, forms an alliance with those rogue Asgard and exterminates the Wraith. After all, the title for the proposed film was meant to be Extinction.
Or rather, fan awareness has been promoted on Twitter, Facebook, etc. People are really stressing the need to watch the final 10 episodes live, to show a visible increase in viewers despite the impending cancellation. Again, it will not likely reverse the edict, but you never know.It has? I thought opinions about it were still divided into three distinct camps- those who enjoy it, the ones who are ambivalent about it and the purists who, naturally, outright hate it.
Agreed. And if the proposed SGU films fail to kick off, then this may be the end of Wright's stewardship of the franchise. The executives may decide to can him given the commercial failure of SGU.If Wright doesn't manage to work out something with MGM then we'll probably have to wait a few years before anything Stargate-related appears.
Castle is pretty fucking good IMHO, but it's a repeat night so I'm all about Universe. I also think of the shows listed, it's MOST likely to draw viewers who would also watch SG:U because you know, Nathan Filion, firefly, etc.Stargate‘s new Monday night competition includes:
ABC: Castle (repeat tonight)
CBS: Hawaii Five-0 (repeat)
NBC: Harry’s Law (new)
FOX: Local news
Castle was watched live by an average of 10.15 million viewers last week, while Hawaii Five-0 drew about 7.23 million for a repeat. 9.15 million tuned in for Harry’s Law.
