emersonlakeandbalmer wrote:Bakustra wrote:
Wrong. I said that if you really care about that so much, that you're acting like a basement-dwelling troll. Then you responded with "gee i thinks you gets too much vitamin d yourself hurr hurr", which is sub-"I'm rubber, you're glue"-level as a response to an insult. You did, in fact, suggest that I got too much sunlight, and so I decided to turn that into extended mockery of you, after which you decided to dive head-first into stereotype.
I find it hilarious that you go on about how arrogant I am (boosting yourself up to insulting at a third-grade level in the process) while acting the way you do. I wonder if you'll descend in monkey cheese garbage if this continues. But I'll explain it to you; it's the intersection of these morbid behaviors, not individual ones.
So your second response comes with personal attacks of nerd sterotypes like vitamin D jokes. Then you're mad when you take my claim that you get too much of it to literally mean I think too much sun is a bad thing and I'm acting like a basement dwelling 3rd grader. You know the last time I heard the vitamin D joke. The 3rd grade.
What's monkey cheese garbage? Is that metonymy as well? If you don't mind I'm going to use it later, right after I use a poopie face joke.
Dude, I'm being lenient on you by the standards of the internet overall. There are plenty of places where they'd have jumped straight to calling you a fat autistic the second you set finger to keyboard. I started with a little aside about how idiotic it was to take this so goddamned seriously. You replied by trying to turn it back, implicitly treating sunlight like a negative. I decided that if you wanted to sling back, then by gum, I'd oblige you. Now, you're complaining about how mean I am and taking things literally while complaining that I'm taking things too literally. Or is this your idea of a joke?
Monkey cheese garbage is where people will throw out "random" phrases for humor. Key signs include inappropriate exclamation marks, a giddy tone overall, etc. You verged on the line for a little bit there, but now you're back on the school playground again, judging from your masterful responses.
So it's like Chekov's Law, except that it refers to tiny, background details. Got it. I'm sure that this will become widely accepted and taught in film schools and theater departments across the country. You're also not distancing this from TESB either, since Luke could have used his X-wing lifting powers (since under your beliefs, the Force is completely unlimited) to toss Vader off the catwalk and save his hand. What a shitty movie, right?
It was established that Luke couldn't lift the X-Wing, however Obi-Wan could speed run so your point is still moot. I went into more detail about the semantics of what I meant about the unlimited/limited argument. Jim and I will agree to disagree, but I conceded the point. Watch what I do on the next response.
"Size matters not", buddy. Yoda expected him to be able to lift the X-wing, clearly he could do so, and a human weighs so much less than an X-wing anyhow. The larger point that I'm trying to make with this is that such criticisms are generally stupid. They focus on minor elements of the film, which are themselves not really that bad. In this case, there are not only parallels, but the scene that introduces superspeed has it tucked away in the background. Bringing it up in the conclusion would be more out of place, since it would seem to come from nowhere.
I see that you put as much thought into your response as a chicken into pecking at feed. Maybe you could try thinking a little harder next time.
You're right I didn't put a ton of thought into it, I had to hurry and scramble back to my cannibal basement under my mom's house because the sun was starting to peak out from behind the clouds.
Good point about the Blues Brothers. I will say however that the difference is we understand the motivations of each party. The IRS wants its money and the Brothers want to save the orphanage. That clarity makes a big difference to me and a lot of other fans. TPM has muddy motivations at best.
If that's cool with you whatever. But do you really want to defend child anakin (be it the actor, the writing or just the fact that lucas made Vader a child) or Jar Jar binks? You don't think there was a better story Lucas could have told?
The problem here is that you're demanding something out of a macguffin that it does not necessarily need to have- a clear reason why it is important. In so many crime and spy films, the macguffin is vaguely valuable jewelry and ambiguous papers, respectively. Here, it's "taxation of outlying trade routes". Going into depth about the motivations behind this is not important, because all it needs to do is set up a reason why the blockade is there, why the Jedi are sent to the blockade, and essentially set the film in motion. All too often, the initial macguffin is forgotten over the course of a story. So too with this. One could argue that it should have been clearer why the Trade Federation is launching its blockade, but alternatively, one could assume that a
Trade Federation may be opposed to
trade taxes. But it's pretty much irrelevant anyhow, much like how in
The Blues Brothers, the tax money doesn't come into play after the opening until the final chase scene. For an even more ambiguous macguffin, we go to
Pulp Fiction's famous briefcase, where the briefcase's contents are never revealed or even hinted at beyond the glow and "it's beautiful." Nobody would say that
Pulp Fiction is a bad movie because you never get to see inside the briefcase, and I don't think that condemning
The Phantom Menace.
The second part- well, here's why I continue to insult you, but will probably tone it down a little. You see, it's possible for someone to say that TPM was a bad movie, and still find criticism of it to be unwarranted or ignorant or uninformed. The mindset behind the alternative is frankly frightening. It is what underlies the efforts to shut down criticism of the PATRIOT Act and any dissent in the USA- the idea of the black-and-white worldview. So I find it annoying on an interpersonal level, but disturbing overall for the implications it has had in the world. And I do not assume that people compartmentalize such worldviews a priori (or at all really, unless I know them well enough). So while I thought initially that you were doing that out of hostility, I see that you are sincere.
Jimmie boy of all people is calling someone longwinded!?!?! 
You're such a cornball
