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Re: Hyperspace Tactics

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IIRC in "Halo: First Strike" Cortana, whilst in the Ascendant Justice's systems, describes the UNSC SF drives as brute-forcing a way into slipspace, and so had limitations on where they could jump to and from, whilst the Covenant drives somehow ued naturally-occuring quantum-scale slipstream portals to enter and exit in a much smoother and "more elegant" manner.

This apparently allows them to do all kinds of crazy shit, but they don't because they're dumb and don't realise what their technology can do. The Covenant AI aboard the ship even brands her jump from the upper atmosphere of the gas giant Threshold to be "heresy."
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Sarevok wrote:Not really, slipstream looks and functions more like Babylon 5 hyperspace.

Halo slipspace
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B5 hyperspace

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SW hyperspace

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In SW you only see the visual effect of a hyperjump when the instant lightspeed is crossed, after the ship has transitioned into FTL state the outside looks similar to realspace instead of a glowing tunnel of space-time like B5 or Halo. There are many explanations for SW hyperspace but in general it is believed that the ship never leaves our universe but instead converts it's mass into a form that can travel faster than light such as tachyon particles. B5 and Halo slipstram are different from this. They both work by tunneling into a parallel dimension where distances are shorter than corresponding realspace coordinates.
If space ships are just turned into FTL matter, then how do the holonet stations work? in B% hyperspace ships can stand still, see each other, and even have space battles. In Halo, and SW you can only see each other. The look FTL "windows" have nothing to do with there capabilitys. Also were did you git the SW Hyperspace idea?
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Imperial528 wrote:In the SW EU Hyperspace travel is described as being inside a blue/white space in appearance, but no one really knows if it is a seperate dimension, what being a different state of matter looks like, or just the appearance of the universe at FTL speeds, according to wookiepedia, but then it is a wiki, so take that how you will. But it's silly to assume that a weapon that affects Slipspace would affect hyperspace even if they are both parallel dimensions, especially since Halo slipspace is described as being empty in every Halo novel I've read concerning it.
Of course The Line weapon wouldn't effect hyperspace using ships. What I was trying to ask was is there any thing similar to it in Star Wars?, Though is seems like there is not, it was anm example of weapons that blow stuff up while in FTL space.
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My source is Dr Saxton, author of the SW ICS books.

You can find his detailed treatment of hyperspace on the SW Technical Commentaries website
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The hyperspace as a blueish-white tunnel comes from the movies themselves, not the SW EU.
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Yes, you see it briefly in Return of the Jedi as the Rebel fleet arrives at the Death Star.

I believe ships in hyperspace *have* rammed a ship in normal space before; the Star Wars comics had one such incident happen, when three Star Destroyers commanded by an Admiral Griff (IIRC) rammed the Executor at hyperspeed. I may be remembering this incorrectly, though... by the way, all three Star Destroyers were obliterated, and the Executor survived with only the loss of its shields. There may be a reference to the incident on SWTC.
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Ah, my mistake, I forgot about that scene of the movie.
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I don't think that counts, since that was more of an accident than a deliberate attack. Also, the ships piloted by Admiral Griff* had dropped out of hyperspace, then crashed into the Executor.. They basically dropped right into it as far as I can tell.

*Near the end of his bio. Wookieepedia link though, and some people don't trust that site.
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Darth Ruinus wrote:The hyperspace as a blueish-white tunnel comes from the movies themselves, not the SW EU.
Elheru Aran wrote:Yes, you see it briefly in Return of the Jedi as the Rebel fleet arrives at the Death Star.
Not to mention on the way to Alderaan in ANH! :wink:
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