Is birth control going to contribute to stupidity?

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2003-02-26 08:09am

I mean really. A lot of morons (fundies for instance) don't use birth contro, and will be breeding like hell, while the intelligent people who do won't breed as fast. Ugh.

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2003-02-26 08:18am

Yes unfortunetly this is a sad fact.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-02-26 08:18am

HIV is Nature's way of limiting the population of man, but it doesn't pick stupid people out.

We just have to live with them like Dilbert does and bare it.

The Great Unbearded One · Post by **The Great Unbearded One** » 2003-02-26 10:39am

Who do you think volunteers to fight our wars for us?

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2003-02-26 10:45am

Watch it..just because your average soldier didn't score 1000 on his SATs doesn't give you the right to say things like that.

Im sure the servicemen of this board would love to lecture you on how much work it is to be solider. I sure as hell couldn't do what they do.

Sir Sirius · Post by **Sir Sirius** » 2003-02-26 11:06am

Yeah, digging ditches, shooting cardboard targets, running around following silly orders and all that ARMY stuff sure means a lot of hard work...but it doesn't excatly require a lot in the ways of brain power. Speaking from personal experiance here.

On the bonus side you do get to blow shit up.

Morning Star · Post by **Morning Star** » 2003-02-26 11:24am

I would've thought that being a soldier takes alot of inner/mental strength and determination that you can't get from just being intellegent. But then again what do I know.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2003-02-26 11:55am

"stupidity" is not always an inherited gene. Idiot parents can have smart children. Smart parents can have idiot children. Furthermore just because someone is a Fundamentalist does not mean they are stupid, it means they are ignorant of the facts.

This thread has a baseless starting point relying on false assumptions.

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2003-02-26 12:57pm

Alyeska wrote:"stupidity" is not always an inherited gene. Idiot parents can have smart children. Smart parents can have idiot children. Furthermore just because someone is a Fundamentalist does not mean they are stupid, it means they are ignorant of the facts.

This thread has a baseless starting point relying on false assumptions.

Idiot parents will raise their children in a fashion that makes them likely to be stupid/ignorant/uneducated/whatever , then again the children can find out logic for them selves. I never said anything about inherited genes, though that can contribute. Also I'm lumping in ignorance under stupidity, since that's how I often hear it used. Language develops and changes.

Cap'n Hector · Post by **Cap'n Hector** » 2003-02-26 01:05pm

Darth Fanboy wrote:Watch it..just because your average soldier didn't score 1000 on his SATs doesn't give you the right to say things like that.

Im sure the servicemen of this board would love to lecture you on how much work it is to be solider. I sure as hell couldn't do what they do.

I doubt that you'll find anyone with 1000 on the SAT...

Just being pedantic.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2003-02-26 01:08pm

human evolution has stopped, thanks to modern medical science. doctors now are able to save the lives pf the stupid and weak long enough for them to procreate.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2003-02-26 01:34pm

Col. Crackpot wrote:human evolution has stopped, thanks to modern medical science. doctors now are able to save the lives pf the stupid and weak long enough for them to procreate.

Damn those doctors who keep weak inviduals such as Stephen Hawking alive...

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2003-02-26 01:46pm

Evolution only optimizes for survival of the species, not it's intelligence, unless the intelligence contributes to the survival- we are beyond that stage though. And genocide of stupid people is simply unacceptable. It's not solely in the genes anyways, it's upbringing too.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-02-26 02:25pm

Alyeska wrote:"stupidity" is not always an inherited gene. Idiot parents can have smart children. Smart parents can have idiot children.

Actually, that's incorrect. Stupidity is a genetic trait, caused by the inherent capabilities and behaviour of the brain. Retards, for example, generally have retarded children. Do not confuse actual stupidity with ignorance or brainwashing.

Furthermore just because someone is a Fundamentalist does not mean they are stupid, it means they are ignorant of the facts.

True, but a fundamentalist is much more likely to be stupid, for the simple reason that stupid people are more easily swayed to their belief system and more easily kept there. A smart person who was raised fundie, when confronted with the arguments of scientists, will be more likely to question things than a stupid person who was raised fundie.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2003-02-26 03:36pm

Sir Sirius wrote:Yeah, digging ditches, shooting cardboard targets, running around following silly orders and all that ARMY stuff sure means a lot of hard work...but it doesn't excatly require a lot in the ways of brain power. Speaking from personal experiance here.

On the bonus side you do get to blow shit up.

How about tactical analysis, stategy, troop managment, maintence of all sorts of equipment, problem solving under duress, and try to figure out indirect fire (Trig was never my strong suit). The days of stupid people being in the Army for cannon fodder is long gone. Today's troops are trained to think and trained to adapt to all sorts of situations.

Speaking from personal experiance here.

salm · Post by **salm** » 2003-02-26 03:40pm

Knife wrote:
Sir Sirius wrote:Yeah, digging ditches, shooting cardboard targets, running around following silly orders and all that ARMY stuff sure means a lot of hard work...but it doesn't excatly require a lot in the ways of brain power. Speaking from personal experiance here.

On the bonus side you do get to blow shit up.
How about tactical analysis, stategy, troop managment, maintence of all sorts of equipment, problem solving under duress, and try to figure out indirect fire (Trig was never my strong suit). The days of stupid people being in the Army for cannon fodder is long gone. Today's troops are trained to think and trained to adapt to all sorts of situations.

Speaking from personal experiance here.

tactical analysis, troop managment... wouldn´t that all be stuff the officers do or do normal soldiers also have to learn all that stuff?

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2003-02-26 03:44pm

tactical analysis, troop managment... wouldn´t that all be stuff the officers do or do normal soldiers also have to learn all that stuff?

Every Marine is suppost to know the job of two levels above him/her. Also if you look at the basic set up of a unit, Lcpl's and Army equivilants (E3) are in charge of a fireteam, Cpl's deal with squads and Sgts deal with platoons. Everyone deals with analysis, managment, ect.... just the higher you get on the totum pole, the more people and equipment you get to be responsible for.

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2003-02-26 05:51pm

Well, smart people could have dumb children. Why? Because they're fucking idiots! (Get it?)

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-02-26 06:26pm

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:Well, smart people could have dumb children. Why? Because they're fucking idiots! (Get it?)

Okay, you just hit your pun limit for today.

Captain tycho · Post by **Captain tycho** » 2003-02-27 03:54am

Morning Star wrote:I would've thought that being a soldier takes alot of inner/mental strength and determination that you can't get from just being intellegent. But then again what do I know.

You know those soldiers that go in gung-ho, ready to kill anything that moves? I've seen some of my fellow pilots freeze up at critical moments because they were reluctant to kill another human being, even in the middle of battle. It's not a training thing, it's totally psychological. No matter how well trained someone is, no matter how one disiplined is, they will almost always have qulams about killing in combat, because they were brought up being told constantly not to kill anyone unless in self defense. Although some people overcome that certain psychological barrier in private well before battle.