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ANAHEIM, March 27, 2011 — Scientists today claimed one of the milestones in the drive for sustainable energy — development of the first practical artificial leaf. Speaking here at the 241st National Meeting of the American Chemical Society, they described an advanced solar cell the size of a poker card that mimics the process, called photosynthesis, that green plants use to convert sunlight and water into energy.

“A practical artificial leaf has been one of the Holy Grails of science for decades,” said Daniel Nocera, Ph.D., who led the research team. “We believe we have done it. The artificial leaf shows particular promise as an inexpensive source of electricity for homes of the poor in developing countries. Our goal is to make each home its own power station,” he said. “One can envision villages in India and Africa not long from now purchasing an affordable basic power system based on this technology.”

The device bears no resemblance to Mother Nature’s counterparts on oaks, maples and other green plants, which scientists have used as the model for their efforts to develop this new genre of solar cells. About the shape of a poker card but thinner, the device is fashioned from silicon, electronics and catalysts, substances that accelerate chemical reactions that otherwise would not occur, or would run slowly. Placed in a single gallon of water in a bright sunlight, the device could produce enough electricity to supply a house in a developing country with electricity for a day, Nocera said. It does so by splitting water into its two components, hydrogen and oxygen.

The hydrogen and oxygen gases would be stored in a fuel cell, which uses those two materials to produce electricity, located either on top of the house or beside it.

Nocera, who is with the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, points out that the “artificial leaf” is not a new concept. The first artificial leaf was developed more than a decade ago by John Turner of the U.S. National Renewable Energy Laboratory in Boulder, Colorado. Although highly efficient at carrying out photosynthesis, Turner’s device was impractical for wider use, as it was composed of rare, expensive metals and was highly unstable — with a lifespan of barely one day.

Nocera’s new leaf overcomes these problems. It is made of inexpensive materials that are widely available, works under simple conditions and is highly stable. In laboratory studies, he showed that an artificial leaf prototype could operate continuously for at least 45 hours without a drop in activity.

The key to this breakthrough is Nocera’s recent discovery of several powerful new, inexpensive catalysts, made of nickel and cobalt, that are capable of efficiently splitting water into its two components, hydrogen and oxygen, under simple conditions. Right now, Nocera’s leaf is about 10 times more efficient at carrying out photosynthesis than a natural leaf. However, he is optimistic that he can boost the efficiency of the artificial leaf much higher in the future.

“Nature is powered by photosynthesis, and I think that the future world will be powered by photosynthesis as well in the form of this artificial leaf,” said Nocera, a chemist at Massachusetts Institute of Technology in Cambridge, Mass.

Nocera acknowledges funding from The National Science Foundation and Chesonis Family Foundation.
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The leaf's ability to convert sunlight and water into storable fuel makes it the ultimate in solar energy. Now researchers say they have found a way to mimic this seemingly simple feat.

The technology developed by Dan Nocera of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and colleagues could eventually power a house and bring electricity to the developing world with little more than a chip sunk into a bucket of water. The device could even store the energy for when the sun isn't shining.

The new technology copies the process of photosynthesis in which the sun's energy liberates electrons in a leaf, which then split water to form hydrogen and oxygen, providing stored energy for the plant.

"Whether you realize it or not, leaves are buzzing with electricity," Nocera said. "They just don't have any wires in them."

The leaves need two catalysts to make this reaction work, and similarly, so do the solar cells. Nocera's breakthrough is in finding two affordable catalysts that can do the reaction.

The sunlight is captured with the same silicon material that makes up a typical solar panel, but instead of connecting it to wires that can charge a battery, the coated silicon with catalysts is submerged in water.

"I can take the chip and put it in this bottle of water and just go and hold it up to the sun and you would start to see hydrogen and oxygen bubbles coming out," Nocera said.

The hydrogen and oxygen could later be used in a fuel cell to generate electricity as they recombine to form water.

The discovery is significant not because it's the first time researchers have made such a cell, but because it's the first to use materials cheap enough to make the device practical, Nocera said at a meeting of the American Chemical Society in Anaheim, Calif.

The device could match the efficiency of today's solar panels, he added, meaning that an array of panels on a household roof would be enough to power the house.

But a key target for the team's research is to provide energy to people in developing countries, especially India and rural China, he said. A key feature of his system in achieving this goal is that the device runs with whatever water is available; it need not be ultra-pure.

"The fact that you can just go over there and if there's a puddle, begin using it -- that's something that's very powerful for us," he said.

This could also be useful for military applications where it would be cumbersome to lug around ultra-pure water.

A remaining engineering challenge to take this from the lab to the rooftop is to figure out how to capture the oxygen and hydrogen and store them for later use. "That's going to be some tricky engineering," he said. It remains to be seen how expensive this aspect will be.

Today's photovoltaic panels can store solar power in a battery, but "a lot of the cost of a solar panel is in the wiring, the packaging," Nocera said. These expensive parts are eliminated with the artificial leaf. "In principle, that could be much cheaper."

The company Sun Catalytix of Cambridge, Mass. is commercializing this technology.
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Awesome! Yet another one of the numerous solar power technologies coming forth. :)

I truly look forward to the blissful silence from solar power critics who think it isn't going to be the primary source of energy for society in the near future. In the meantime, one simply has to pat them on the head as they spew nonsense on the subject.
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I truly look forward to the blissful silence from solar power critics who think it isn't going to be the primary source of energy for society in the near future
I’ll bite.

It's not, the article even says it doesn’t yet match current solar tech in terms of cost effectiveness and that isn’t cost effective enough to roll out in most of the world in comparison to fossil fuels, nuclear or even other renewable sources. The idea of solar being the primary source of power in any country is rather ridiculous seeing its major practical limitations and cost ineffectiveness in relation to practically every other form of generation.

Not that this tech isn’t cool or useful, a renewable source of hydrogen would be great if for example you could fuel your hydrogen car with it but it’s not a game changer. Indeed I’d want to see how this tech compares to existing hydrogen separation methods in terms of efficiency.
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To make it practical application also require cheap fuel cells. From what I have heard about hydrogen powered cars fuel cell is the most expensive component. Of course it is also possible to burn hydrogen directly in IC engine but efficiency then suffers. If the goal is to provide some basic electricity to third world villages to power LED lights, radio and some other low power devices then I don't see how this solution is superior to your regular solar panel hooked to few car batteries.
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the article even says it doesn’t yet match current solar tech in terms of cost effectiveness and that isn’t cost effective enough to roll out in most of the world in comparison to fossil fuels
excuse me, but did you read the whole article(s)? To me looks like it's saying the thing is practical to make and use, due to inexpensive catalysts that work even in not-totally-pure water (a major drawback of most machines doing electrolysis nowadays). The solar panel is a solar panel like any other, just of a small size (they talk of 10 times a leaf's photosynthetic efficiency, and plants usually reach between 3% and 6% of photosynthetic efficiency so it seems to be between 30% and 60% efficient).
They have problems in separating oxygen and hydrogen, though. That will be the thing making a difference.
The company Sun Catalytix of Cambridge, Mass. is commercializing this technology.
They have a site.
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Singular Intellect wrote:Awesome! Yet another one of the numerous solar power technologies coming forth. :)

I truly look forward to the blissful silence from solar power critics who think it isn't going to be the primary source of energy for society in the near future. In the meantime, one simply has to pat them on the head as they spew nonsense on the subject.
It isn't. Solar power isn't scalable with projected power usage and too much of the Earth would have to be covered in solar panels in order to provide a 21st century style of living.
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Chirios wrote:Solar power isn't scalable with projected power usage and too much of the Earth would have to be covered in solar panels in order to provide a 21st century style of living.
Oh really?
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Destructionator XIII wrote:Do you realize how huge those boxes are?
It's written right in the link I provided.
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Destructionator XIII wrote:I guess the answer is "no" then.
Very amusing, considering the following.
My estimation is the US's power provided by solar would mean devoting about the same area to solar generators as we do to roads. Nationwide, including the long roads between cities.
Let's see the math for this assertion.
Alternatively, I figure it's about 50% of the area of every city in the country being covered.
Where the fuck are you getting your numbers from?

Let's work with the numbers stated in my previous link, and use the projected energy consumption in 2030. We'll round it up to a even half million square kilometers needed.

List of the surface area of world's largest cities.

We'll use your completely arbitrary figure of '50%' of city area coverage. We'll also pretend solar efficiency hasn't and won't climb beyond 20%. We'll also ignore increasingly efficient energy systems being utilized. We'll also ignore utilizing vertical surface area for capturing solar power. We're also pretending cities didn't grow whatsoever, and yet still need to match projected energy consumption for 2030.

Despite all these ridiculous assumptions to favour your absurd pessimism, seventeen (give or take a couple) of the world's largest cities allocating 50% of their surface area would meet the projected energy demands for the entire planet.

I ask you again, where the fuck did you get your '50% of every city' figure from? Out of your ass?
It might be little squares on a world map, but all of humanity is a little square on a world map.
And only a fraction of the humanity 'small square' would meet the energy demands of the entire planet, even with ridiculously pessimistic variables used to favour your conclusion.
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Destructionator XIII wrote:
Singular Intellect wrote:Where the fuck are you getting your numbers from?
http://www.ers.usda.gov/publications/EIB14/eib14g.pdf

If you knew anything, you'd be able to tell from your own link, too. There's no city on Earth the size of any of those boxes.
I never claimed there was, moron. Go back and read what my post actually says.
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Destructionator XIII wrote:Jesus fuck, have you ever actually understood a point? Get some perspective - a little dot on a globe is still huge in human terms.
Yes, and, therefore? You falsely claimed 50% of every city would be required to meet energy demand of a particular country. I cited the figures that prove around seventeen cities doing that could meet the entire planet's projected energy demand in 2030.

You're talking out of your ass. I never made any claim or implication that those scales are not large by any standards, human or otherwise.

But by all means, continue beating that poor strawman senseless.
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Um Destructionator - London ain't far off the size of the smallest boxes, and London is a large, but dense city.

Take an area like Mexico City. Take the area currently covered by roof sheet.

It'll work. Maybe not brilliantly for the northern cities, but in the tropics you're laughing.


I'm not sure it'd be best used in a dispersed format though - seeing as collecting and utilizing the oxygen-hydrogen mix will be the tricky part.
Possibly a clear (large) bag with water and the chips in the base being used to produce a H&O mix for cooking on if you're in the countryside. In the cities I'd assume standard PV would be more useful.
For industrial Hydrogen production, we'd be looking at massive area plants, presumably with a refinery underneath them.

It it's current form, it also has brilliant potential as a desalinator. Just burn the gases coming off for pure water.
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I don't know why you are obsessing on the area of land taken up by the panels its the huge cost per mwh (around five times coal even with subsidy) that renders it a silly argument that we are going to switch our base load over to solar. Not to mention you would need to still provide that base load once the sun has gone down necessitating a completely redundant power grid of equal capacity anyway.

Also you have to remember that you’re not going to be able to magically transport electricity from solar panels in the Sahara and other conveniently sunny locations your squares occupy to the usually less sunny locations people live. There was a thread on the board about a group of business men planning to move electricity generated in the Sahara by solar to Europe and nothing came of it because it simply is not possible to move vast amount of electricity over those distances with any reliability or cost efficiency. Even between the UK and France the cables are only capable of handling two gw.

Out of interest what would be the current cost of installing 500,000 square km of solar panels!
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madd0ct0r wrote:It it's current form, it also has brilliant potential as a desalinator. Just burn the gases coming off for pure water.
100% pure water from even the most toxic and polluted source, without a filter (that doesn't last forever). And you can also cook on it. It's going to sell like cakes for this use only, if it is put to production.

Not bad. :mrgreen:
Assuming the polluted water remains relatively clear to allow the light to reach the panel, and that the chemicals within don't interact with the panel, of course.
Darth Tanner wrote:Out of interest what would be the current cost of installing 500,000 square km of solar panels!
Most costs I find around are costs per watt, not per panel surface. On average seems around 3 $ per watt.
according to EIA world's total electric energy production is around 5 TW, so to power the whole world with the Sun you would have to spend 15 $ trillions in panels. (US and EU GDP are both around 14 trillions)
Somewhat expensive, but doable.
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Yeah - it'd be annoying if the 'leaf' only works for 24hrs before being covered in a layer of salt(or worse) crystals.

and for more polluted processing, the oxygen going into the water might react with other 'orrible stuff.

although you could then scrape it off for processing... sideline in Uranium processing perhaps?



oooh. another use - aerating stagnant ponds without needing an airpump.
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Darth Tanner wrote:There was a thread on the board about a group of business men planning to move electricity generated in the Sahara by solar to Europe and nothing came of it because it simply is not possible to move vast amount of electricity over those distances with any reliability or cost efficiency
I think it´s Desertec you´re talking about. I haven´t heard of it going the way of the dodo. I think it´s still in progress.
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I think it´s Desertec you´re talking about. I haven´t heard of it going the way of the dodo. I think it´s still in progress.
Not sure if they were the same group as you suggest, Desertec seem to be very professional and have an impressive amount of research but are essentially just aiming to lobby governments/companies into investing rather than doing any building themselves and conspicuously lack any cost estimates.

As a good example of the problem however the new BritNed interconnector between the UK and the Netherlands cost £530,000,000 and is only a 260km cable carrying half a gw. To supply the UK alone you'd need to send over 45gw 2400km, an engineering feat that has never even remotely been attempted and would cost something like £440 billion just in transmission let alone any generation costs. And that’s ignoring the fact your expensive solar plants and expensive cables are going through rather unstable areas of the world.
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madd0ct0r wrote:I'm not sure it'd be best used in a dispersed format though - seeing as collecting and utilizing the oxygen-hydrogen mix will be the tricky part.
Possibly a clear (large) bag with water and the chips in the base being used to produce a H&O mix for cooking on if you're in the countryside. In the cities I'd assume standard PV would be more useful.
For industrial Hydrogen production, we'd be looking at massive area plants, presumably with a refinery underneath them.

It it's current form, it also has brilliant potential as a desalinator. Just burn the gases coming off for pure water.
Desalination is tricky though. Have to deal with a shitload of salt products and damage to coastal wildlife.
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Desalination is tricky though. Have to deal with a shitload of salt products and damage to coastal wildlife.
Why can't you sell the marine salt? This system isn't so different than the operation of a salt evaporation pond.

It's worse when you use it to detoxify water on the spot, when you end up with toxic mud that you must dump somewhere.
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Desalination is tricky though. Have to deal with a shitload of salt products and damage to coastal wildlife.
Why can't you sell the marine salt? This system isn't so different than the operation of a salt evaporation pond.

It's worse when you use it to detoxify water on the spot, when you end up with toxic mud that you must dump somewhere.
I can't remember where I read it, but I did read somewhere that selling desalination salt is difficult because it contains toxic shit, but don't hold me to that.
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Couldn't you just take the desalinization salt and chuck it in the ocean? All the water you separated from it is just going to end up drank, pissed, evaporated, and back in the sea eventually anyway. Hydrological cycle, yo.
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That depends on where you dump it. Throwing a ton of salt back into the coastal ocean temporarily drives up its salinity, which can fuck with a lot of coastal sea-life.
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Any large scale application of solar and/or wind energy will require energy storage on a massive scale. Currently cost effective energy storage can be achieved only with hydroelectric plants and dedicated pumped storage power plants, but those are somewhat location limited. If you use fossil fueled backup plants that turn on when solar or wind is not enough you don't really solve anything regarding dependency on fossil fuels.

Are there any cost estimates of how expensive it would be to supply say 1 GW of electrical power from intemitent energy sources in Europe that also takes into account costs of energy storage (suppose a pumped storage plant of suffiecient capacity)?
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Any large scale application of solar and/or wind energy will require energy storage on a massive scale.
Solar thermal can already do its job day and night, by storing heat in molten salts for night operation. For the other two (solar-electric and wind) you either need huge batteries or hydrogen/oxygen (and quite a bit of R&D anyway).
Placing turbines in the seas is another good idea, to either exploit the tides (reliable) or from sea currents/waves (again reliable).
If you use fossil fueled backup plants that turn on when solar or wind is not enough you don't really solve anything regarding dependency on fossil fuels.
Well, covering the base load with renewables is more than enough to drop the fossil consumption considerably. Technically France does fire up fossil power plants when there are spikes in energy consumption too, even when they have fucktons of nuke plants.
Are there any cost estimates of how expensive it would be to supply say 1 GW of electrical power
Spain has already around 700 MW of solar thermal, up and running. Is also currently building more stuff to double that amount. Some work at night, some don't.
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Guardsman Bass wrote:That depends on where you dump it. Throwing a ton of salt back into the coastal ocean temporarily drives up its salinity, which can fuck with a lot of coastal sea-life.
Sure, but even if you have to drive your cheap-ass barge a thousand miles this way on this dump, and a thousand miles that way on that dump, you'd still think it'd be cheaper/easier than anything else.
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