Avatar size

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2003-02-27 01:49pm

I was figuring that our avatar size could use another 2kb of allowed space, I don't think it would affectperformance at all, I was a modem user and on SB they have a 15kb limit and I had no problems loading pages, I believe this could help alot.

My current avatar that I wish to upload maxes out at 7.5kb and I cannot get it down to 6kb without making it look like shit.

Ted · Post by **Ted** » 2003-02-27 01:51pm

Uh, isn't it already at 8k?

And 100x100?

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2003-02-27 01:53pm

Ted wrote:Uh, isn't it already at 8k?

And 100x100?

No, it's 6kb

The size doesn't matter as much to me, it's impossible for me to have 100x100 avatars and stay in the size limit, without resorting to some real shitty qualty.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-02-27 02:07pm

Use a compressor, I found one just recently.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2003-02-27 02:11pm

Admiral Valdemar wrote:Use a compressor, I found one just recently.

Done that.
Still, this is not just about me not getting an avatar to fit.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2003-02-27 02:14pm

At any rate, I used another image instead, so I got an animated avatar to fit.

Kelly Antilles · Post by **Kelly Antilles** » 2003-02-27 02:27pm

While the larger size would be nice, Mike barely has enough room to store all the posts on the server.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2003-02-27 02:28pm

Kelly Antilles wrote:While the larger size would be nice, Mike barely has enough room to store all the posts on the server.

Ah, that explains it.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2003-02-27 02:29pm

Hey, can you people see the image in my sig or is it a red x?

Ted · Post by **Ted** » 2003-02-27 02:30pm

Your new AV aint showing up.

Kelly Antilles · Post by **Kelly Antilles** » 2003-02-27 02:32pm

I see it just fine.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-02-27 02:35pm

I`ve just enlarged my avatar and its 3.01kb

The Great Unbearded One · Post by **The Great Unbearded One** » 2003-02-27 02:36pm

I see it just fine, and mine was just very very slighty over the limit and I had to condense it which was a pain in the arse...

ArmorPierce · Post by **ArmorPierce** » 2003-02-27 02:46pm

It would be nice. Maybe it should be one of the benefits of becoming a donater to SD.net.

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2003-02-28 08:05am

Nay, because once the room runs out old posts will have to be deleted. Which means people with over 5000 posts will watch their counts plummet while current Younglings and Padawans won't have that effect.

It effects both the aesthetics and heirarchy of the board. The rules for heirarchy are as follows

Top of the ladder- The Esteemed Owner

Next- Women and Mods

Next to Next- Post count.

Seeing as how I am not a woman nor a mod my post count is the only thing that separates me from the constant influx of new users who have various intentions.

So, yeah, nay

Kelly Antilles · Post by **Kelly Antilles** » 2003-02-28 09:28am

Darth Fanboy wrote:Nay, because once the room runs out old posts will have to be deleted. Which means people with over 5000 posts will watch their counts plummet while current Younglings and Padawans won't have that effect.

It effects both the aesthetics and heirarchy of the board. The rules for heirarchy are as follows

Top of the ladder- The Esteemed Owner

Next- Women and Mods

Next to Next- Post count.

Seeing as how I am not a woman nor a mod my post count is the only thing that separates me from the constant influx of new users who have various intentions.

So, yeah, nay

Wow... that's.... I'm speechless, Fanboy.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2003-02-28 09:58am

How the devil do you people get such detailed AND fairly large Avatars. I had to tweak mine with photshop and shrink it down and still loose detail, and its a simpler design!

Kelly Antilles · Post by **Kelly Antilles** » 2003-02-28 10:02am

Alyeska wrote:How the devil do you people get such detailed AND fairly large Avatars. I had to tweak mine with photshop and shrink it down and still loose detail, and its a simpler design!

Have you tried saving it as a .gif? I believe there are several compression programs out there you can use.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-03-01 12:38am

Several points of note:

1) The size of the posts on the server is unaffected by the avatar size. However, the daily bandwidth is definitely affected, and we're already pushing a lot of bandwidth.

2) GIF images are always big because GIF is a lossless image format. People only use it because it allows image-flipping, ie- animated images. Its downsides are size, a ridiculous intellectual property situation, and the fact that it's limited to 8-bit images.

3) JPG images compress far smaller than GIF images and the compression is tunable. However, JPG is a lossy image format and can create visual artifacts. They are rarely objectionable; my own avatar is compressed with JPG all the way down to 2.5kB and still looks good.

4) PNG is a newer format which seems to produce fewer compression artifacts than GIF and has tunable compression as well. However, its images are bigger than JPG images.

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2003-03-01 12:42am

Darth Wong wrote:4) PNG is a newer format which seems to produce fewer compression artifacts than GIF and has tunable compression as well. However, its images are bigger than JPG images.

Microsoft products also vomit every time you wave a PNG at them, although the support's been getting somewhat better recently.

I would be using a PNG for my sig, but there are still people here who use Nutscrape 4 and Internet Exploder 4...

Ted · Post by **Ted** » 2003-03-01 12:45am

Crayz9000 wrote:I would be using a PNG for my sig, but there are still people here who use Nutscrape 4 and Internet Exploder 4...

People still use IE4?

Wow, so old that.

BTW, how much free bandwidth space do you have left Mike? Not the free as in no cost free.

David · Post by **David** » 2003-03-01 12:52am

Perhaps we could link our av images to KAJ's site, he appearantly has plenty of bandwidth to blow on useless crap.

Captain tycho · Post by **Captain tycho** » 2003-03-01 01:07am

David wrote: Perhaps we could link our av images to KAJ's site, he appearantly has plenty of bandwidth to blow on useless crap.

Hmm.....

Anyone for 50 GB Avs?

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-03-01 01:10am

6kb is fine. I think animated avatars are irritating anyway.

David · Post by **David** » 2003-03-01 01:11am

I'm not asking for much, just to have the original trilogy as my av.

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Increase allowed size from 6 to 8kb? Yay or Nay

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