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Paul Ryan's Healthcare Plan

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First of all, apologies if this should have been in the Budget/Government Shutdown thread.

Secondly, I'm not an economist by any stretch of imagination. I just have a keen interest in it and I tend to read up about news and analysis on macroeconomics as comes up in the news and blogosphere especially relating to the US, the UK and the EU.

Third, I'm not American and nor do I live in the US.

Disclaimers done, over the last week I've been watching what can only be called the most satisfying internet smackdown of Paul Ryan's "bold" and "courageous" proposal to convert Medicare and Medicaid into some bastardised scheme of vouchers and tax credits. Some of the gems include the Heritage Foundation (who else) basing their assumptions on the theory that unemployment would go as low as 2.8% (last seen in the Korean War) and defence spending go down to Calvin Fucking Coolidge days. Oh, and when pointed out they completely removed these numbers from their report without explanation. So not just incompetent, but just outright dastardly.

My favourite, though, is Ryan wanting to slash top marginal rates to 25%. TWENTY FUCKING FIVE? Seriously? I pay more than that in the UK. I'm in the LOWEST bracket. And according to the idiots at the Heritage Foundation, this will result in an 'explosive boom'. This level of fellation of the rich is something incredible, IMO. Not only this involves a belief in Randian-influenced* 'trickle down' theories, but also in the widely-disproved Laffer Curve. Even if a curve like that actually exists, it involves believing we're on the wrong slope.

The smackdown has been delicious.

Paul Krugman:
How ridiculous is it? Let me count the ways — or rather a few of the ways, because there are more howlers in the plan than I can cover in one column.
The Ryan plan sharply cuts taxes on top income, yet if you look at the last page you’ll see that tax receipts are supposed to go up by almost $600 billion.
At this point, the absence of any independent verification of the claim that he will collect 19 percent of GDP in revenue clearly reflects a deliberate evasive strategy: Ryan and his colleagues don’t want anyone looking at their numbers independently.
Brad Delong:
Can We Please Just Shut the Heritage Foundation Down Now?

We really do not need it.

Americans do not need it.

Liberals do not need it.

Conservatives do not need it. Its existence is simply offensive to all of us who actually want good public policies and sane political discourse.
Even people on the right of the American center are pissed. Bruce Bartlett:
Distributionally, the Ryan plan is a monstrosity. The rich would receive huge tax cuts while the social safety net would be shredded to pay for them. Even as an opening bid to begin budget negotiations with the Democrats, the Ryan plan cannot be taken seriously. It is less of a wish list than a fairy tale utterly disconnected from the real world, backed up by make-believe numbers and unreasonable assumptions. Ryan’s plan isn’t even an act of courage; it’s just pandering to the Tea Party. A real act of courage would have been for him to admit, as all serious budget analysts know, that revenues will have to rise well above 19 percent of GDP to stabilize the debt.
David Frum (who I think now is probably to the left of Obama)
But notice what Ryan's plan does not do. It does not credibly address the number one concern of Americans: jobs.... [It] actually increases the debt over the medium term — by even more President Obama’s budget would.... The real message of the Ryan plan is: Upper-income tax cuts now; spending cuts for the poor now; more deficits now; spending cuts for middle-income people much later; spending cuts for today's elderly, never....
The only worrying thing about all if this is that I have absolutely no faith in Obama and the Democrats. They will probably bend over and take it up the arse (ass for you Yanks) and low-and-middle-income-earners in the US will continue to get pillaged by the so-called 'conservatives'.

Good Luck.

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asing their assumptions on the theory that unemployment would go as low as 2.8%
It's telling when Economists like Paul Krugman pointed that out and started laughing at it, they simply just removed the number off their site.
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UnderAGreySky wrote:Brad Delong:
Can We Please Just Shut the Heritage Foundation Down Now?

We really do not need it.

Americans do not need it.

Liberals do not need it.
As Bill Maher succinctly put it in one of his New Rules: "You can't call yourself a think-tank when all of your ideas are dumb."

And it's become more than clear that the Ryan and other GOP budget "plans" really amount to nothing more than legislative variations of the Plutocrats Relief Act of 2011. Basically, the commonwealth of this country is now wide open for rapine and pillage.
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Ah, more on the Heritage Foundation.

The Economic Impact of President Bush's Tax Relief Plan
Published on April 27, 2001 by D. Wilson and William Beach
Specifically, the CDA dynamic analysis projects that the Bush plan would:

* Significantly increase economic growth. By the end of FY 2011, GDP (adjusted for inflation) would be $246 billion higher than the CBO baseline forecast. The rate of economic growth would increase by an average of 0.2 percentage point per year (from 3.1 percent to 3.3 percent) from FY 2002 to FY 2011 (see Appendix B).
* Create more job opportunities. As Chart 1 shows, over 1.6 million more Americans would be working at the end of FY 2011, compared with the CBO baseline forecast. Moreover, the unemployment rate would average just 4.7 percent instead of 4.9 percent from FY 2002 to FY 2011.
* Substantially increase family income. By the end of FY 2011, disposable personal income for an average family of four (adjusted for inflation) would increase by $4,544 (see Chart 2).21 In response to this increase in family budgets, consumer spending would rise by $255 billion, or $3,390 for each family of four.
Note 1: CDA = 'Heritage Foundation Center For Data Analysis'
Note 2: It's from their OWN FUCKING WEBSITE

So, how did that work out, Mr. Ryan?
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