An Angel Awakes in 40k(GUNNM in 40k)

[The Yosemite Bear]

Ok, Yoko/Alita/Gaelleta/GUNNM recovers from the last time she broke down, and using nearby matter she re-assembles herself. So how does the AM and the IOM react to a tiny young lady who can fly at supersonic speeds, shoot plasma from her body, carres a sword that's bigger than her, and can rebuild herself....

[Darth Fanboy]

Any background on whatever GUNNM is?

[The Yosemite Bear]

Wiki

basically a cyborg terrorist with amneashia trying to assirt free will.

[Sidewinder]

Alita might slaughter her way through a Space Marine Chapter, but against Chaos? Daemons with the ability to warp space-time at will, to possess BATTLE TANKS and other war machines (see The Lost: A Gaunt's Ghosts Omnibus)? Weapons capable of destroying planets? Viruses that allow a human being to grow LASER CANNONS and MISSILE LAUNCHERS more quickly than cancer?

I don't see the cyborg having a future in WH40K, unless she joins the Cult Mechanicus. Her nanomachines might seem an advantage, but the technology pales in comparison to some of Chaos' tricks- the Obliterator Virus, the Bloodtide (see Hunt for Voldorius), daemonic possession, etc.

[Cykeisme]

Slaughter her way through a Space Marine chapter?

Wow, any numbers on this thing's capabilities?

[lordofchange13]

What exactly are Alita the cyborgs capability's? How fast can she re-gren, are there any weapon calcs? the wiki article Doesn't say much about what she can do.

[CBG]

So how does the AM and the IOM react to a tiny young lady who can fly at supersonic speeds, shoot plasma from her body, carres a sword that's bigger than her, and can rebuild herself....

The AdMech screams Technoheresy! as fast as it can, and we know what comes next...
Cyborg trying to assert free woll? Two words : Iron Men.
And i think that a unit of AdMech secutors ( combat oriented technoheresy hunting techpriests) could be a tough match for her.

[Vendetta]

The problem with coming up with calculations on Alita's capabilities and figuring out what effect she'd have on the local fauna is, well, which Alita?

Since she's a cyborg who uses fully interchangeable bodies which have capabilities from barely above human to quasi-godlike it's important to have those details.

Of course, since Alita and Mental Stability have not been firm friends over the course of the series it's not as much a question of when she falls to Chaos but how fast she jumps.

[Sidewinder]

Slaughter her way through a Space Marine chapter?

Wow, any numbers on this thing's capabilities?

As The Yosemite Bear noted, Alita can run at supersonic speeds, project plasma talons and other wanked close combat weapons, and cripple enemy cyborgs via harmonics. Trying to calculate her limits is as futile as trying to calculate a Dragonball Z character's- the manga artist has an unfortunate tendency to wank his creations to planet-killing levels.

So how does the AM and the IOM react to a tiny young lady who can fly at supersonic speeds, shoot plasma from her body, carres a sword that's bigger than her, and can rebuild herself....

The AdMech screams Technoheresy! as fast as it can, and we know what comes next...

The AdMech consider the act of replacing flesh-and-blood organs with machines, to be religious offerings- the more mechanical a person is, the closer he or she is to the Omnissiah. The AdMech will welcome the Alita from Gunnm as one of their own. The Alita from Gunnm: Last Order (sequel), however, WILL be considered an abomination, because she's the first Alita's memories copied onto the computer chip that controls a fully mechanical body- in other words, an Iron Woman.

[lordofchange13]

Slaughter her way through a Space Marine chapter?

Wow, any numbers on this thing's capabilities?

As The Yosemite Bear noted, Alita can run at supersonic speeds, project plasma talons and other wanked close combat weapons, and cripple enemy cyborgs via harmonics. Trying to calculate her limits is as futile as trying to calculate a Dragonball Z character's- the manga artist has an unfortunate tendency to wank his creations to planet-killing levels.

So how does the AM and the IOM react to a tiny young lady who can fly at supersonic speeds, shoot plasma from her body, carres a sword that's bigger than her, and can rebuild herself....

The AdMech screams Technoheresy! as fast as it can, and we know what comes next...

The AdMech consider the act of replacing flesh-and-blood organs with machines, to be religious offerings- the more mechanical a person is, the closer he or she is to the Omnissiah. The AdMech will welcome the Alita from Gunnm as one of their own. The Alita from Gunnm: Last Order (sequel), however, WILL be considered an abomination, because she's the first Alita's memories copied onto the computer chip that controls a fully mechanical body- in other words, an Iron Woman.

What exactly are plasma talons? i don't think Harmonics will work while in space. At what level can she rebuild her self, alex mercer (comes back from a hand full of gunk), or picolo(re-gens limbs)?

[Sidewinder]

Plasma talons are exactly that: Alita uses electromagnetic fields to shape superheated protons into blades, which radiate from her fingers like a cat's claws.

[Lord of the Abyss]

Cyborg trying to assert free woll? Two words : Iron Men.

Those were robots, not cyborgs.

[lordofchange13]

Plasma talons are exactly that: Alita uses electromagnetic fields to shape superheated protons into blades, which radiate from her fingers like a cat's claws.

Would these plasma talons be effective against Space Marine Armour? At what speed can she run, if all she has are melee weapons then it would be difficult to fight Space Marines or baneblades.

[Vendetta]

i don't think Harmonics will work while in space.

The attack he's talking about is based on striking a target extremely rapidly (~100 times in a second) to set up vibrations in it which damage squishy organic bitz inside tough armoured shells. It's not a sound based effect (though Alita does at one point use the same technique on a magnetically contained plasma ball), and would work perfectly in a vacuum as it's based on direct physical combat.

At what level can she rebuild her self, alex mercer (comes back from a hand full of gunk), or picolo(re-gens limbs)?

As long as her brain biochip and the Fata Morgana key remain, she can completely regenerate.

Would these plasma talons be effective against Space Marine Armour?

Very likely. Hell, ask your local Genestealer what even ordinary claws will do to Space Marine armour

At what speed can she run

Current incarnation, unknown. At least one incarnation (significantly less powerful than now) topped out at about mach 16 (albeit in vacuum).

if all she has are melee weapons then it would be difficult to fight Space Marines or baneblades.

Do you want a list of the things in 40k that only have melee weapons and can still killfuck space marines? It's an incredibly melee heavy setting, and nearly everyone except the girly Tau have dedicated melee forces.

[lordofchange13]

At what level can she rebuild her self, alex mercer (comes back from a hand full of gunk), or picolo(re-gens limbs)?

As long as her brain biochip and the Fata Morgana key remain, she can completely regenerate.

Would these plasma talons be effective against Space Marine Armour?

Very likely. Hell, ask your local Genestealer what even ordinary claws will do to Space Marine armour

At what speed can she run

Current incarnation, unknown. At least one incarnation (significantly less powerful than now) topped out at about mach 16 (albeit in vacuum).

The genesealers talons aren't exactly normal, there some sort of magic material that can be grown and be monomuleculer sharp.
Alita=cyborg-robot-ninja-jesus to the third power.
Chaos would use there reality warping powers to capture her and make copy's, .

[Ford Prefect]

Plasma talons are exactly that: Alita uses electromagnetic fields to shape superheated protons into blades, which radiate from her fingers like a cat's claws.

They're also smalltime. I don't think she's bother to use her plasma control techniques for something as trivial as claws since she got punked by Caerula. The most recent appearence was that 100m+ tall supersonic 3000 degree plasma tornado she and Toji made when he countered her plasma soliton. Incidentally, the same sequence made it clear that Alita only needs a microsecond long opening to successfully counterattack, and it's be implied pretty heavily that Alita is currently on broadly the same level as Zekka. Zekka being able to slice a 100m+ asteroid in half with a single angry karate chop.

EDIT: Also, as of her most recent body, Alita has demonstrated sufficient precision and control of electromagnetic fields to perform electron level transmuations of matter - her 'Javelin Palm' technique requires her to literally make a shaped charge in the palm of her hand.

[Talk738kno]

Do you want a list of the things in 40k that only have melee weapons and can still killfuck space marines? It's an incredibly melee heavy setting, and nearly everyone except the girly Tau have dedicated melee forces.

Nitpick: Not in their main line forces sure, but the Tau do have Kroot as a dedicated melee force.

[Serafina]

Nitpick: Not in their main line forces sure, but the Tau do have Kroot as a dedicated melee force.

Whom are good skirmishers, but don't even get close to dedicated melee troops of other races.

[Vendetta]

Chaos would use there reality warping powers to capture her and make copy's, .

As already noted, they may not need to capture her. When she's got a mad on Alita makes khornate berserkers look positively restrained.

[The Yosemite Bear]

Mind you her history with boyfriends is not that pleasant....

[Ford Prefect]

As already noted, they may not need to capture her. When she's got a mad on Alita makes khornate berserkers look positively restrained.

It's sort of hard to guage exactly when she was more into violence: back when she worked for Tuned, or right now. Regardless, she fucking loves beating people up, no doubt.

[sirocco]

Well she started her career as a Martian terrorist which took 450.000 lives by destroying 4 of the 5 Leviathian ships of Earth Federation. And to do that she had to use her PAnzer Kunst martial art to get rid of security.

http://www.lelumignon.org/documents/doc ... petite.jpg

And now that she is particpating to a tournament with people able to destroy asteroids on a whim, well... she just got more efficient.

And just about that Paner Kunst:

Panzer Kunst was the first fighting style developed to anticipate cyborg combat, and emphasizes combat against both armed opponents, including ranged weapons, as well as zero gravity (and as an extension, fighting in mid-air free fall). Panzer Kunst seems to emphasize speed as well as the use of vibration-based attacks to cause damage to a foe's limbs or internal organs. The art is also quite effective against larger foes. The Panzer Kunst also provides a definite tactical advantage, since it gives its user the ability to analyze an opponent's fighting style and to retaliate accordingly. Therefore, a Künstler will rarely be defeated in a second combat with a given enemy. It appears that smaller schools existed within the overall Panzer Kunst framework. So far, the only style that appears to have survived are the Mauser School which use the Elbogen-Blatt, German for "elbow leaf", which normally consists of a blade mounted on each of the user's forearms, and the Scheider School, which developed the Übergeheimnis, German for "oversecret" (but used in this context the word Über is used more like the Nietzsche term Übermensch, a word from the describing the superhuman), and the combination attack Hertzer Nadel. The only other school mentioned thus far, the Gossen School (German for "gutter"), which developed the Geheimnis Einsatzrhythmen (German for "secret application rhythm"), had already been extinct for 200 years.

[Cykeisme]

Can Alita beat Son Goku?

[Ford Prefect]

What sort of question is that? Son Goku can blow up entire planets. Jesus, even Master Roshi can blow up the moon.

[Sriad]

What sort of question is that? Son Goku can blow up entire planets. Jesus, even Master Roshi can blow up the moon.

Yea...

In spite of all the recent power inflation Yukito Kishiro has maintained some degree of mass:power verisimilitude. Nobody in a human-scale body has done anything that approaches even tac-nuke levels of power without tac-nuke like external support. That isn't to say Alita is without substantial wankery, just that it's constrained by sci-fi technobabble and internally consistent to a degree that doesn't break into the highest echelons of power. A single Contact grade Culture drone could walk through everything we've seen in the series simultaneously without a whiff of personal danger.

It's hard to say how she'd handle 40k. Assuming she learns about the galactic power balance (humans vs. everybody, nowhere "personal freedom" can flourish) before the IoM brings an unbeatable amount of force to bear she'd probably sign on with the AM and turn over the Karmatronic principles developed by Desty Nova that stop nanotech in the Alita-verse from rampaging out of control. There's a possibility that the tech she brings in could lead to radical improvements in IoM weaponry, manufacturing, and their overall situation. (Games Workshop would never allow such a development in the homeostatic 40k-verse, but given that we usually ignore Authorial Fiat...) If she's beaten or captured before she can come to a decision on her own (most likely brought down by Psykers) she'd probably be written off as an agent of Chaos and destroyed.

OTOH there's a non-trivial possibility she'd go over to Chaos; she's effortlessly tolerating cooperation with Nova now, her body has proven susceptible to hacking unless she's given external aid, and Tzeentch could represent his philosophy well enough that she might go over voluntarily if he gets the chance.