mon cal vs the federation

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2002-08-19 05:32am

through some warpspace anonomly, the system of mon cal appears on the borders of the federation with half a dozen cap ships. seeing the horrific way humanity is run (communism as opposed to republic) they declare war.

what happens.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2002-08-19 06:33am

An MC80 is nearly the equal of an Imperator, which in turn has the multi Teraton ocean boiling planet melting broadside and matching shields we all know and enjoy.

One cruiser each precedes to the Federations six most heavily defended systems. Each then destroys the defenders and all installations. The subspace comm. system is left in place to allow for the news to reach the Federations government on Earth, who will also have been the devastation first hand.

The Federation is defeated within a day.

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2002-08-19 06:54am

makes you wonder why the entire empire is proposed against star trek. . .heh.

any other opinions?

SPOOFE · Post by **SPOOFE** » 2002-08-19 07:09am

A single Mon Cal, if given a week to chart territory, can cause enough damage to the Federation in the space of three days to bring the Federation to its knees. It can't conquer it, of course - you'd need a thousand Mon Cal's packed to overflowing with occupation forces - but you could completely undermine its economic and political stability. A week after the Mon Cal's attack, the Federation is a crippled shadow of what it once was... vulnerable to an attack from any other AQ force.

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2002-08-19 11:39am

Enforcer Talen wrote:makes you wonder why the entire empire is proposed against star trek. . .heh.

any other opinions?

Simply because the Empire has the cooler ships.

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2002-08-19 04:56pm

Enforcer Talen wrote:through some warpspace anonomly, the system of mon cal appears on the borders of the federation with half a dozen cap ships.

Besides the capships, am I correct in assuming that all the fighters, light starships, defensive platforms, ground based weaponary, etc are included with the system?

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2002-08-19 05:09pm

USAF Ace wrote:
Enforcer Talen wrote:through some warpspace anonomly, the system of mon cal appears on the borders of the federation with half a dozen cap ships.
Besides the capships, am I correct in assuming that all the fighters, light starships, defensive platforms, ground based weaponary, etc are included with the system?

Not that the Mon Cals will need them. With hyperdrive, the MC-80's can get back from the Beta or Gamma Quadrants in time to fight off a Feddie assault. Assuming, of course, the Feddies can breach the planetary shields. (I assume Mon Calamari has shields because it's an important world to the Alliance/NR. Plus, if they can build MC-80's, they can install a planetary shield)

IRG CommandoJoe · Post by **IRG CommandoJoe** » 2002-08-19 06:10pm

I personally don't think the Rebels would be appalled by the Federation's government. I just don't see how the Rebel Alliance, that deals with all different diverse planets with varying governments, would care about how the Federation is run. They would tell about the evils of the Empire and try to get the Federation's help. There is no reason for the Rebels and the Feds to fight. The Feds would immediately warm up to the Rebels and the Rebels would try to get their help and add them to the Alliance.

IRG CommandoJoe · Post by **IRG CommandoJoe** » 2002-08-19 06:28pm

Not to mention the Feds would practically throw themselves into the SW galaxy just to explore all of the new civilizations and cultures.

SPOOFE · Post by **SPOOFE** » 2002-08-19 06:55pm

We know that, CommandoJoe. The likelihood of any of these "battles" actually happening is so nonexistent it's pathetic. But if we actually care about such details as "They wouldn't REALLY fight", we'd get REALLY bored REALLY quick.

Besides, just assume that Q makes them fight.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2002-08-19 08:07pm

[Devil's Advocate]Tynna, the Chiss, and a few other planets/races are communist [/DA]

IRG CommandoJoe · Post by **IRG CommandoJoe** » 2002-08-19 10:43pm

But if they "really" met, then the ambassadors would actually have to try their hardest to screw up good relations between the Federation and the Alliance. lol But I agree the Rebellion would wipe the floor with the Feds.

Isolder74 · Post by **Isolder74** » 2002-08-20 05:21pm

Enforcer Talen wrote:through some warpspace anonomly, the system of mon cal appears on the borders of the federation with half a dozen cap ships. seeing the horrific way humanity is run (communism as opposed to republic) they declare war.

what happens.

What support ships light mon cals, nebulon B's, Correlian Corvette, are present

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2002-08-20 09:11pm

what would be typical for mon cal?

Cal Wright · Post by **Cal Wright** » 2002-08-20 10:40pm

Darth Yoshi wrote:
USAF Ace wrote:
Enforcer Talen wrote:through some warpspace anonomly, the system of mon cal appears on the borders of the federation with half a dozen cap ships.
Besides the capships, am I correct in assuming that all the fighters, light starships, defensive platforms, ground based weaponary, etc are included with the system?
Not that the Mon Cals will need them. With hyperdrive, the MC-80's can get back from the Beta or Gamma Quadrants in time to fight off a Feddie assault. Assuming, of course, the Feddies can breach the planetary shields. (I assume Mon Calamari has shields because it's an important world to the Alliance/NR. Plus, if they can build MC-80's, they can install a planetary shield)

First off, that's a neat little avatar. Makes me think there's a breeze on the msg boards. However, you will be greatly sadened by this news. Mon Calamari according to the EU God himself, KJA in Dark Apprentice did not have planetary shields. hell they only had a squadron of B-Wings to defend the planet. Two ISDs rained light fire onto the planet and sank a floating city and crippled a few others. The third lied in wait around the moon to attack the shipyards. It does say one thing though. With 3 ISDs and thier TIE Fighters plus the ones from the Hydra they acquired they were still afraid of 12 B-Wings. Heh. 12 B-Wings versuse the AQ eh? Run in fear boys, it's hunting season...

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2002-08-20 11:17pm

DG_Cal_Wright wrote:
Darth Yoshi wrote:
USAF Ace wrote: Besides the capships, am I correct in assuming that all the fighters, light starships, defensive platforms, ground based weaponary, etc are included with the system?
Not that the Mon Cals will need them. With hyperdrive, the MC-80's can get back from the Beta or Gamma Quadrants in time to fight off a Feddie assault. Assuming, of course, the Feddies can breach the planetary shields. (I assume Mon Calamari has shields because it's an important world to the Alliance/NR. Plus, if they can build MC-80's, they can install a planetary shield)
First off, that's a neat little avatar. Makes me think there's a breeze on the msg boards. However, you will be greatly sadened by this news. Mon Calamari according to the EU God himself, KJA in Dark Apprentice did not have planetary shields. hell they only had a squadron of B-Wings to defend the planet. Two ISDs rained light fire onto the planet and sank a floating city and crippled a few others. The third lied in wait around the moon to attack the shipyards. It does say one thing though. With 3 ISDs and thier TIE Fighters plus the ones from the Hydra they acquired they were still afraid of 12 B-Wings. Heh. 12 B-Wings versuse the AQ eh? Run in fear boys, it's hunting season...

It was light on defenses because it just got creamed by the World Devestators a few months earlier.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2002-08-21 12:00am

DG_Cal_Wright wrote: First off, that's a neat little avatar. Makes me think there's a breeze on the msg boards. However, you will be greatly sadened by this news. Mon Calamari according to the EU God himself, KJA in Dark Apprentice did not have planetary shields. hell they only had a squadron of B-Wings to defend the planet. Two ISDs rained light fire onto the planet and sank a floating city and crippled a few others. The third lied in wait around the moon to attack the shipyards. It does say one thing though. With 3 ISDs and thier TIE Fighters plus the ones from the Hydra they acquired they were still afraid of 12 B-Wings. Heh. 12 B-Wings versuse the AQ eh? Run in fear boys, it's hunting season...

KJA... The god of the EU.....

BURN THE HERETIC!

Cal Wright · Post by **Cal Wright** » 2002-08-21 12:46am

LoL! Closet Trekkies. I know it had been attacked by the World Devestators, but Almight KJA still insults all intelligence with and onslaught of stupidity by describing those defenses. IF Mon Calamarians are the 'soul' of the Rebellion as Leia put it, and thier ships pretty much helped them win the fucking war, then would more than just a squadron of B-Wings be good? Personally, I think 4 ISDs for Daala was shabby. A fleet with support vessels would be closer. Plus Mon Cal should have had a number of MC's in it's defense. That's personally how I feel about it. Also, to get this back on topic before it is moved. While the MC's are about pilliging the masses, the twelve B-Wings would pound the crap out of any GCS or standard Trekkie ship that comes thier way.

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2002-08-21 02:20am

Keeping the 12 B-wings is overkill. You can probably send a flight away to assist the MC-80's without endangering Mon Calamari. Especially with the hyperdrive speed factor.

Cal Wright · Post by **Cal Wright** » 2002-08-23 01:55am

Too risky. If we are using the crap that is KJA God and Lord of that which is Expanded Universe Star Wars and savior to all Trekkie debaters, then there is no planetary sheild, and no planetary laser/ion cannons about. Even at the speed of hyperdrive, if the Mon Cals are in an engagement, then they simply cannot just break off and run home. Twelve B-Wings, six fly cover in orbit, six fly cover for the planet's surface.

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2002-08-23 01:58am

Yes, but doesn't it take weeks to get from Earth to the edge of Feddie space at warp speeds?

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