Who-bits: Damn, This Series Has Been on FOREVER!

[Eternal_Freedom]

Bollocks I'd forgotten about that....so ten offers to save the thing that almost blew up all of the multiverse rather than the being who pretty much saved the multiverse.

God damn RTD's scripts suck so bad.

[NecronLord]

Various translations of Ka Faraq Gatri, the Dalek name for the Doctor, have been given in books and such, The Oncoming Storm (which made it into canon) is one, another rather more frivilous one is "Nice guy if you're biped" which is a bit more fitting with that whole Davros incident.

[Eternal_Freedom]

Ka Faraq Gatri, the Bringer of Darkness.

Incidentally NecronLord, I stumbled across some rather excelelnt Dalek AU stories the other day, I think you'd like them here. They cover the aftermath of Remembrance of the Daleks as well as what happens to Dalek Caan after Evolution of the Daleks. Plus they are just generally awesome.

[NecronLord]

Yeah. As I say, opinions are divided on the matter. The original Aarnovich was 'Bringer of Darkness' but Oncoming Storm also existed and was used as a translation prior to that, and the 'biped' thing seriously was in a book somewhere, someone quoted it as an example of dalek wit. I think it might have been Bernice.

[Molyneux]

Also, what was up with Ten's infuriating desire to save his enemies?

He offers to save Davros, the being who imprisoned him, killed countless people in Earth and the other planets, and vey nearly destroyed the entire goddamn universe and Ten offers to save him? WTF?

Never mind that, he expends the effort on Davros, rather than Dalek Caan.

He already made the offer to Dalek Caan back in Evolution of the Daleks. Ten didn't seem much of a "two chances" kind of guy.

[NecronLord]

He already made the offer to Dalek Caan back in Evolution of the Daleks. Ten didn't seem much of a "two chances" kind of guy.

He already made the offer to Davros in Genesis of the Daleks and Remembrance of the Daleks too.

Dalek Caan had rather obviously changed.

[Eternal_Freedom]

He said as much. Remember The Christmas Invasion?

"No second chances. I'm that kind of a man."

I would have thought he'd have changed his mind in light of what Caan had done to redeem himself though.

[Ahriman238]

Dalek Caan was chained to the floor, and had made it abundantly clear that he wanted to die. That he wanted all the Daleks to die, including himself.

I really have no explanation for trying to save Davros. Perhaps the Doctor wanted to be able to securely imprison him? Like the Master, the Cybermen and the Daleks themselves, it's a certainty he'll come back eventually.

[Eternal_Freedom]

The Doctor has set a precedent for wanting to securely imprison enemies in the past. He planned to imprison the Master in such a way. He even secured Davros at the end of "Destiny of the Daleks" so he could face trial.

Then again, he also set a precedent for letting Davros die, in Remembrance:

[quote=Remembrance of the Daleks"]DAVROS: Have pity on me!
DOCTOR: I have pity for you. Goodbye Davros, it hasn't been pleasant[/quote]

I chalk it up to RTD being retarded. Heck, he's the one who wrote in that the Doctor tried to save Davros during the Time War, at the Gates of Elysium.

[Big Orange]

Bollocks I'd forgotten about that....so ten offers to save the thing that almost blew up all of the multiverse rather than the being who pretty much saved the multiverse.

God damn RTD's scripts suck so bad.

Well like Ahriman238 said, to be fair Caan was in a completely ruined travel machine that was chained to the deck and was in no shape to go anywhere and the Doctor had no time to rescue him when everything was blowing up. He also tried to "save" Davros in the Time War proper, when his flagship was vanishing into the jaws of the Nightmare Child. After the events of "Dalek" he seemed to have gone in the pattern of trying to rescue the veterans of the Time War, though such goodwill seemed wasted on a mass murdering fruitloop like the Master (until he kinda redeemed himself by turning on Rassilon).

And also the 5th Doctor seemed very fearful when facing his regeneration and also the 6th Doctor went into a melodramatic, very fake self-pity when confronted with his supposed grave in "Revelation of the Daleks". I agree with NecronLord that the Doctor's various personas seem to put on a brave face and reassure his/her respective companions before effectively dying, and this is most apparent in "Bad Wolf"-"The Parting of the Ways" when the 9th Doctor got a lethal dose of the Time Vortex to save Rose and he finally referred to him in the past tense ('You were fantastic and you know, so was I...').

[Broomstick]

I'm not normally a bit fan of fan-made videos, but this one tickled my fancy: