The Axiom lands in the Capital Wasteland.

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The Axiom lands in the Capital Wasteland.

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The Axiom, from the film WALL-E, is about to hyperspace to Earth's position, however, OTTO has been turned off, like in the film, so as they jump, they fly through a negative space wedgie and end up in the Fallout universe, in the time of 2277.

The Axiom lands a couple miles north of Oasis.

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The inhabitants stay inside, using Robots to neutralize the threats posed by the natives.

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they outfit WALL_E with a plasma cannon, and go kill off the ghouls and super mutants.
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I'm pretty sure the EVE robots would be enough to handle anything in the Capital Wasteland (The Swampfolk in Point Lookout on the other hand might pose a problem... just kidding, I'm pretty sure they would be vaporized in seconds if EVEs handling of that magnetized crane is any indication of her firepower).

Though after the threats are neutralized I'm sure the Axiom inhabitants will have an interesting time working deals with the local Brotherhood of Steel and other benevolent forces in the area. The Axioms systems should be able to manufacture all sorts of food and medicine and there would be plenty of server robots to distribute the stuff to the local area.

No doubt there will be people like the Enclave or Raiders who want to take stuff by force but with a sizable stock of EVEs on board I'm pretty sure they could make short work of anyone they don't like. Though the robots would likely be built-in with safeguards to prevent them from hurting humans (super mutants, ghouls, deathclaws, and rogue robots would be toast) but as long as the Capital Wasteland Brotherhood of Steel stay benevolent and willing to protect the Axiom while getting new recruits then it would work out (the Axiom should be able to make supplies for them, though not sure if there are any human-usble weapons comparable to EVE).


If the Enclave or the douchbag Brotherhood were to try and capture the Axiom... damm, I'm pretty sure EVE could reduce them to atoms in a second if she wanted to but I'm sure the Buy n Large robots are kind of programmed ot avoid ding that to humans. Sure, armored platoons of Enclave or Brotherhood could zerg rush the Axiom and get reduced to steam several yards from their goal but eventually some of the robots would recognize that there's a little too much overcooked hamburger vapor in the robtots attakcing them. So it turns into a case of the paramilitary forces trying to take over the Axiom by subterfuge and stuff verses the couch potatoes in the ship (and local brotherhood if they are around).

What I'm wondering is how a reactivated Auto would be able to handle attacking raiders or enclave if the robots refuse to deal lethal force to humans. His security robots have their force fields but could be destroyed by a malfunctioning massage robot. He does have pretty decent control over the ship but there's only so much he could do with controls to the security forces, doors, and maybe the chairs the Axiom passengers use.
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You're forgetting the Enclave's sentry bots. You're also forgetting the Enclave's vertibirds, neither of which should be discounted in how much ass they can kick. "The Vertibird has a heavily armored fuselage and can be outfitted with a variety of offensive weapons and defensive countermeasures, the most common being gatling lasers, missile racks, and a Mini-Nuke bed."* Little robots, meet hot nuclear death! Well, the closest they can come to death anyway. How tough are EVEs, anyway, and how much firepower can they put out? I had a thread a while back where I tried to quantify how tough Enclave weapons and power armor were. Not the most accurate thing, given my lack of scientific background, but semi-useful as a guide.

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EVE's weapons are variable yield. The first time she hits WALL-E she vaporizes what might be a couple cubic meters of rock, and makes a notable mushroom cloud. It's hard to say if that's the maximum yield she can throw, however, as she's very casual about firing.

WALL-E isn't too shabby himself in the durability department, himself, considering all the chaos he survives at the beginning.

EVE is also extremely agile and fast. A missile would have to actually somehow hit her in the first place. A bomb simply doesn't have a chance.
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So it turns into a case of the paramilitary forces trying to take over the Axiom by subterfuge and stuff verses the couch potatoes in the ship (and local brotherhood if they are around).
Blending into the axiom crowd is not going to be easy for any BoS guy.

Basically, i can not see the Axiom falling to enemies in the capital wasteland. They probably have a factory which means that they can build enough robots and they can not be starved to death.

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The Axiom has superior production capabilities than pretty much anything in the post-apocolyptic world (it somehow has enough supplies/production in deep space to constantly dump tons of garbage) and the mass-produced EVE robots have weaponry that can vaporise huge chunks of rock and can hit supersonic speeds (I think there was one part near the begining where she created a sonic boom while playfully flying around).

Basically the EVE robots alone would make mincemeat out of vertibirds or sentry bots if the EVE robots choose to attack them. The one miserable excuse for an advantage that the Enclave or raiders or whatnot could possibly pray to possess is that the robots might be three laws compliant at which point the robots would simply be unable to kill the Enclave personnel if the robots know they are human.

Send a sentry-bot against EVE? Congrats, you are the proud owner of a smoldering crater. Send a thousand sentry bots against EVE? You own a thousand craters (actually, can the sentry bots even fire upward? if they can fire upward then you own 999 craters and one damaged EVE). Send a few platoons of power armored Enclave soldiers against a dozen or so EVEs and you've got a bunch of dead soldier if EVE decides to kill them.

If the enclave come crawling on their hands and knees and beg for their worthless lives and some food then the Axiom passengers would very probably help them out, then its a matter of the Enclave backstabbing the Axiom crew and surviving. EVE robots can murder anything the Enclave can send at them, the Axiom security bots are another matter, the security bots would likely be limited to encasing hostile enclave forces in force-bubbles and try locking them away somewhere (or tossing them out of the ship) while Enclave guys could likely blow up the security bots with ease if they have weapons.

Basically the Enclave has no chance of beating them in an open slugfest, its a matter of them getting into the Axiom somehow (I'm guessing some groveling, begging, or trying to act like decent human beings would help out here... better to be invited than to try sneaking in), disabling the EVE robots or taking hostages or whatever, and then somehow commandeer the ship while the robots try to take them out without killing them (assuming the robots can't kill humans but can distinguish between authorized personnel and invaders).

We know that AUTO is willing to disobey human orders to fulfill higher priority ones, he's willing to mutiny against the captain and destroy other robots if he feels their actions endanger the passengers. Its like Paperclip AI maximizer stuff except AUTO wants to protect the crew. If his safeguards aren't strong enough then he might declare the Enclave guys non-human and go to town killing them all (if this is verified to be an alternate universe and not their own Earth then his argument could be sort of valid). Not sure if AUTOs willingness to kill could be transferred to the other robots (maybe malfunctioning ones?) but if he starts convincing the EVEs that enclave personell are valid targets (something that would no doubt be helped along if the Enclave start harming the Axiom crew) then the Enclave lose.
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I don't see any reason to assume EVE is three laws compliant, so much as has a general goal to serve humans, specifically the humans on the Axiom.

And yes, EVE units are capable of breaking the sound barrier at ground level.
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Damn. Oh, well. Another one where the Enclave bites the dust. :(
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Ghetto edit. How does the Axiom stand against Bradley Hercules? I'm assuming it survives, but I don't know.
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...EVE is a robot the size of a mid-sized dog who can move at supersonic speeds and casually tosses energy blasts roughly on par with Star Wars fightercraft. You might as well ask "Orbiting nuclear armed satellite (with all of eight nukes) versus Nebulon B Frigate, go!"

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Panzersharkcat wrote:Ghetto edit. How does the Axiom stand against Bradley Hercules? I'm assuming it survives, but I don't know.
A brief googlebash states that the thing's engine is broken such that it can only fire on two targets. How could it lock on to the Axiom?
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The same way it locked on to Liberty Prime aka the fuck if I know how it managed to do that for a moving robot but not at other targets later. But yeah, the Enclave is totally fucked, then.
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