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Or so says Mike Huckabee's top adviser. Also, gays caused the Flood, Christianity is illegal, and Hillary is the antichrist!
Mike Huckabee's close ties to far-right activists helped propel him to a second-place finish in the race for the GOP presidential nomination in 2008. But as the former Arkansas governor mulls another White House run, the incendiary remarks and outright paranoia of one of his close advisers serve as a reminder that Huckabee's greatest asset—his relationship with the religious right—may also be one of his greatest vulnerabilities.

Huckabee has joked that he "answers" to "two Janets." One is his wife, Janet Huckabee. The other is Janet Porter, the onetime co-chair of Huckabee's Faith and Values Coalition. And Porter, the former governor has said, is his "prophetic voice." But that voice has said some weird things over the years: Porter has maintained that Obama represents an "inhumane, sick, and sinister evil," and she has warned that Democrats want to throw Christians in jail merely for practicing their faith. She's attributed Haiti's high poverty rate to the fact that the country is "dedicated to Satan," and she suggested that gay marriage caused Noah's Flood. And there's this: In a 2009 column for conservative news site WorldNetDaily, Porter asserted that President Barack Obama is a Soviet secret agent, groomed since birth to destroy the United States from within.

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Porter's long history in the Christian right made her a natural ally for Huckabee, a former Baptist preacher, as he laid the foundations for his presidential run in 2007. An acolyte of the late televangelist D. James Kennedy, Porter rose quickly through the ranks of the Christian right, first as director of the Ohio Right to Life chapter in the 1990s. Later, she founded and served as president of Faith2Action, a right-wing group that promotes a theory known as Christian Dominionism—in which Christians are duty-bound to control the instruments of government in advance of the second coming of Christ.

Porter, in turn, seemed enamored with the candidate. In WorldNetDaily, she lavished praise on Huckabee. At one point, she composed a medieval ballad in which Huckabee, referred to as "Sir Mike-A-Lot who we all Like a lot," slayed Hillary Clinton (represented by the "the evil queen and her dragon of slaughter"). Huckabee eventually signed Porter up as co-chair of his Faith and Family Values Coalition, a prestigious group of evangelical who's-who's tasked with reaching out to religious voters.

Porter had strong words for Huckabee's competition, as well. She publicly suggested that former Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson might be the anti-Christ. In the lead-up to the Iowa caucuses, she cut an ad attacking Huckabee's two most serious rivals, Mitt Romney and John McCain. The ad was paid for by RoeGone, a short-lived 527 formed by a Porter deputy with the stated ambition of becoming the conservative MoveOn.org (it fizzled).

Porter's most dramatic arguments for Huckabee centered on what she believed was the impending prohibition on Christianity—the subject of her 2004 book, The Criminalization of Christianity: Read This Book Before it Becomes Illegal! In her view, the 2008 election represented a make-or-break moment for people of faith. "I'm writing this letter from prison, where I've been since the beginning of 2010," she began one column. "Since Hillary was elected in '08, Christian persecution in America has gotten even worse than we predicted."

Her efforts for Huckabee did not go overlooked by the candidate. In his campaign memoir, Do the Right Thing, he calls her a "prophetic voice," and includes Porter on a short list of evangelicals—including Left Behind creator Tim LaHaye—who made his rise possible. He singles her out for praise for helping to organize the Values Voters Debate and credits her prayers and fasting with his strong performance at a "turning point" in the campaign.

"We met and prayed together and there was a special defining moment for me if not for the others," he writes. "Bondage to my fears about whether I was to continue was broken, and bonds of friendship were formed that night with people like Janet Folger [Porter's maiden name] and other who came to play a major role in what was later to be labeled by the press and known as a 'Huckaboom.'"

Since the 2008 election, the two have largely gone their separate ways. For Huckabee, that meant a well-paid gig on Fox News as the host of his eponymous television show. Porter, meanwhile, found a new target in the current president—a topic she explored in the detail in the pages of WorldNetDaily.

"Brace yourself for what I am about to say next," Porter began one column, published shortly after the inauguration. She then detailed an email that had been forwarded to her raising questions about the president's status as an American citizen. But that was the least of it: If the email were correct, the president was a Soviet agent—and so were his parents. He had been conceived, in other words, with the sole purpose of destroying the nation from within.

As Porter explained, the letter had originally been composed by a software developer named Tom Fife. "All I know is that Tom Fife is a real guy—not some e-mail scam," she wrote. "I've talked to him." In the email, Fife recounted a dinner-party conversation he'd had with a Soviet scientist in Moscow in the early 1990s.

"Since I had dabbled in languages," Fife wrote, "I knew a smattering of Arabic. I made a comment: 'If I remember correctly, 'Barack' comes from the Arabic word for 'Blessing.' That seems to be an odd name for an American.' [The Soviet scientist] replied quickly, 'Yes. It is 'African,' she insisted, 'and he will be a blessing for world Communism. We will regain our strength and become the number one power in the world.'"

From there, Porter's rhetoric only escalated. Last summer, she lost her syndicated radio show after organizing a rally at the Lincoln Memorial to urge Christians to take over the United States government. And this spring, she made headlines by summoning a fetus to testify on behalf of an Ohio measure banning abortions after a heartbeat has become detectable. (Huckabee has endorsed the bill).

Porter did not respond to a request for comment from Mother Jones.

Huckabee's greatest asset has always been his ability to speak two languages—one to his base, and one to everyone else. But that may not last if he decides to run again. His most recent appearance on the normally friendly confines of The Daily Show was dominated by a discussion of his admiration for discredited amateur historian David Barton, whom Huckabee says Americans should be "forced at gunpoint" to listen to.

The former Arkansas governor has thus far stayed mum on whether he will leave his cushy Fox News show to run for president. But like Porter, Huckabee himself has drawn criticism for his embrace of conspiracy theories surrounding Obama's upbringing. In March, he told the American Family Association's Bryan Fischer that the President's worldview was shaped by Kenyan upbringing (he later back-tracked).

Huckabee, contacted through his political action committee, did not respond to a request for a comment. The Soviet Union, which dissolved in 1991, also could not be reached.

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She was watching the Manchurian Candidate while being high on drugs.
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Stas Bush wrote:She was watching the Manchurian Candidate while being high on drugs.
Does religion still count as an opiate?
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Serafina wrote:
Stas Bush wrote:She was watching the Manchurian Candidate while being high on drugs.
Does religion still count as an opiate?
"Religion is the Opiate of the Masses." - Karl Marx

Its probably one of the few things a commie ever said that I agree with. -winks teasingly-

In all seriousness, I think the 'crazies' are crazy. Religion or not, drugs or not, they'd behave like a madwoman or madman...as the case may be. Huckabee can't win a serious election because he has too many crazies in his organization. Any competent politician will win the 'Center' and the 'Left' with him as the Republican candidate. The Right alone can only win an election if no one else shows up. ;)
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Yet more evidence the US education system is FUBAR: The fact conspiracy theorists forget the US government has failsafes- the famous checks and balances- to prevent a hypothetical "Soviet agent in the White House" from destroying the country from within, or the fact Christian fundamentalists forget there was a reason the Founding Fathers didn't want the US to be a "Christian nation," i.e., they didn't want the US to suffer as Europe suffered in its wars of religion.
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A significant fraction of the craziest of the crazies are people whose parents probably dropped out of mainstream education in the '70s and '80s and homeschooled their children to believe this sort of thing. Or who have been living in an echo chamber so long that their memory of grade-school civics lessons has long since been supplanted by their "the end is nigh!" preacher.
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Sidewinder wrote:Yet more evidence the US education system is FUBAR: The fact conspiracy theorists forget the US government has failsafes- the famous checks and balances- to prevent a hypothetical "Soviet agent in the White House" from destroying the country from within, or the fact Christian fundamentalists forget there was a reason the Founding Fathers didn't want the US to be a "Christian nation," i.e., they didn't want the US to suffer as Europe suffered in its wars of religion.
That's not even the batshit insane part... Obama was just some lawyer in Chicago in 1990. Why would they be discussing him at a dinner party in Moscow at all?

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Or apparently the names of soviet spies are common knowledge amoung soviet scientists and they casually mention them at dinner parties. You think after all that work the KGB might try to keep people from mentioning their deep cover agents while drunk.
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This is what gets me:
Porter's most dramatic arguments for Huckabee centered on what she believed was the impending prohibition on Christianity—the subject of her 2004 book, The Criminalization of Christianity: Read This Book Before it Becomes Illegal! In her view, the 2008 election represented a make-or-break moment for people of faith. "I'm writing this letter from prison, where I've been since the beginning of 2010," she began one column. "Since Hillary was elected in '08, Christian persecution in America has gotten even worse than we predicted."


Time and again I have noted that those on the far right have an immense sense of "projection" in terms of what they fear. That the things they fear the most are those things they would gleefully do if they had unlimited power over others. When the far right gets into power, it is their modus operandi to bend the world to their own views. To ban what they don't like, force their viewpoints on others, and outlaw anything they disagree with. As such, when Liberals get into power it is naturally assumed that they shall do the same. Hence why we get the constant shouts of "Banning Guns, Banning the Bible, forced gay marriage in churches, forced atheism in school!" etc etc.

The far rights greatest fear are those things they wish to do to others when given the chance, which is rather sad when you think about it.
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The Soviet Union, which dissolved in 1991, also could not be reached.
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Those fiendish Soviet devils! Deliberately engineering the breakup of their own country and it's slide into crony-capitalist oligarchy and corruption to cover their plan for secret world takeover by a faux-neoliberal sleeper agent working undercover as a practising lawyer nobody ever even heard of in 1990 but who they knew they could get into the White House due to their ability to manipulate the U.S. electoral system and mass media over the course of nearly two decades! Is there no end to their diabolically clever evil?!?!
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kaeneth wrote:"Religion is the Opiate of the Masses." - Karl Marx
Read the full quote and you'll see that it doesn't mean what you think it does.
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Jawawithagun wrote:
kaeneth wrote:"Religion is the Opiate of the Masses." - Karl Marx
Read the full quote and you'll see that it doesn't mean what you think it does.
I never said I agreed with the rest of it. :P
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Jawawithagun wrote:
kaeneth wrote:"Religion is the Opiate of the Masses." - Karl Marx
Read the full quote and you'll see that it doesn't mean what you think it does.
This was written in the mid-1800s, when opiates were on the one hand a powerful and addictive drug... and on the other hand, a vital medicine offered to desperately ill people suffering from intolerable pain, when nothing else could be done for them but to ease that pain.

The 19th century relationship with opiates was complicated.
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Huckabee's started an animation company, too. They posted a trailer for some cartoon where an 'ethnically diverse' cast of kids (the trailer showed two asians and two whites) travel back in time to the late seventies and watch Ronald Reagan single-handedly save the entire world from everything.

That's the impression the trailer gave me, anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e7ZZ2ENSJg

I thought the guy couldn't make himself any more unappealing to me than he was running in the primaries previously but he keeps lowering my opinion of him every time he pops up in the news.
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DPDarkPrimus wrote:Huckabee's started an animation company, too. They posted a trailer for some cartoon where an 'ethnically diverse' cast of kids (the trailer showed two asians and two whites) travel back in time to the late seventies and watch Ronald Reagan single-handedly save the entire world from everything.

That's the impression the trailer gave me, anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e7ZZ2ENSJg

I thought the guy couldn't make himself any more unappealing to me than he was running in the primaries previously but he keeps lowering my opinion of him every time he pops up in the news.
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Hang on. Look at the start. The asian guy was wearing a fucking space marine helmet :wtf:
But, seriously, that was a joke right? Please?
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Sidewinder wrote:Yet more evidence the US education system is FUBAR: The fact conspiracy theorists forget the US government has failsafes- the famous checks and balances- to prevent a hypothetical "Soviet agent in the White House" from destroying the country from within, or the fact Christian fundamentalists forget there was a reason the Founding Fathers didn't want the US to be a "Christian nation," i.e., they didn't want the US to suffer as Europe suffered in its wars of religion.
She-it, public schools barely teach the tripartite organization of the Republic and the checks and balances among the legislative, judicial and executive branches. Given Congresscritters' ignorance and disregard and executive orders, there's enough disarray in the official governmental structure (let alone what the bureaucracies - mostly regular folks with middle-of-the-road morals IMO - do) to provide grist for all kinds of conspiracies. Alex Jones would be out of bidness tomorrow if Congress stuck to the enumerated powers (and amendments) and EOs were done away with. 'Course that's a pipe dream. And so are Huckabee's aspirations for President this time around; he lost the nomination to John (I'm really a Democrat!) McCain in 2008, for Christ's sake!

And, Sidewinder, while I largely agree with you on the matter of religion, I have to correct you. The founders were uniformly Christian. Jefferson and Franklin, two of the core Founders, were Deist i.e. monothesitic without any real church affiliation. [speculation]Maybe because Jefferson screwed a couple of his slaves and Franklin was a notorious womanizer[/speculation]. The really remarkable part is that the 55% Episcopalian/Anglican majority agreed with all the other sects that the USG would have NO official religion or prohibit the worship of any religion. THAT was the big break from Europe's habits.
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Maybe because Jefferson screwed a couple of his slaves
They checked. The DNA doesn't match.
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Maybe he didn't want to schlep from Monticello to the local chapel. I grew up 20 miles away from there; it would have been an hour's ride at least from any significant population i.e. church back then. Shit, Jefferson probably could have ridden an hour before he got off his property! Winter in northern Virginia kinda sucks. So does summer.
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Themightytom wrote:
The Soviet Union, which dissolved in 1991, also could not be reached.
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That put a smile on my face as well.
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Count Chocula wrote:And, Sidewinder, while I largely agree with you on the matter of religion, I have to correct you. The founders were uniformly Christian. Jefferson and Franklin, two of the core Founders, were Deist i.e. monothesitic without any real church affiliation.
I'm doubtful of these claims - there have been some deists who still considered themselves Christian, but in general, Deists did not believe themselves to be Christians.
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Maybe because Jefferson screwed a couple of his slaves
They checked. The DNA doesn't match.
Are you sure about that?
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Huh, reading up on it, it looks like I misunderstood my previous source. Jefferson wasn't the father of Woodson, but was the father of Edson.

Opps. Er, thanks for pointing that out.
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Zed wrote:
Count Chocula wrote:And, Sidewinder, while I largely agree with you on the matter of religion, I have to correct you. The founders were uniformly Christian. Jefferson and Franklin, two of the core Founders, were Deist i.e. monothesitic without any real church affiliation.
I'm doubtful of these claims - there have been some deists who still considered themselves Christian, but in general, Deists did not believe themselves to be Christians.
While Deism is usually considered a subcategory of theism, it is NOT run-of-the-mill Judeo-Christian monotheism. Most deist believe(d) in a distant creator god that actually does not concern him/herself with the daily matters of people. Basically the deist god has an extremely hands-off approach to the things he/she supposedly created. This is in a fairly deep contrast to the traditional Christian view, which holds that God is interested in the lives of every person and more or less actively guides Christians through their lives (either through Holy Church as in Catholicism and Orthodoxy or directly as in most Protestant churches).
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