Can someone explain to me about the Third Anti-Christ?

[Dark Primus]

Ok I have read some Nostradamus so called predictions about the future. I find them very interesting to read. And I also have an old documentary film with Orson Wells in it, which is based on Nostradamus predictions and he mentions the coming of the Third Anti-Christ.
According to Nostradamus himself, the first Anti-Christ would have been Napoleon, the second Hitler and the third... Who knows. But apparently the third anti-Christ will wage war against the west.

Does Osama Bin Laden fit in as the third anti-Christ?

[HemlockGrey]

WTF? Why Napolean?

Although, you can't trust this. IIRC, Martin Luther was one of the antichrists, and Nero was another. There have been so many antichrists, I seriously think Satan is considering an alteration in his resume.

[Colonel Olrik]

Napoleon: conquered a continent.

Hitler: conquered a continent, and managed to wipe out a large portion of the jewish race (not something that a few christians of old would object to, anyway).

Osama: Destroyed some structures, killed a couple thousand people and is now either hiding his ass in some hole in the mountains or simply dead.

Can't get good tyrants, these days.

[Wicked Pilot]

Quit wasting your brain cells thinking about Nostradamus and his bullshit. There are better ways to waste them, like drinking beer.

[Dark Primus]

WTF? Why Napolean?

Although, you can't trust this. IIRC, Martin Luther was one of the antichrists, and Nero was another. There have been so many antichrists, I seriously think Satan is considering an alteration in his resume.

I have no idea why. From Nostradamus point of view seeing Napoleon leading a large army against several other christian European Kingdoms maybe triggered that responce. I guess people who are studying Nostradamus work can the answer. Trust me it is isn't easy to understand his work.

[Ravencrow]

I'd like to know how they work out his prophecies. I'm highly skeptical of it, I mean, if something is cryptic enough, one can easily use it to apply to any events that are happening. How does one proof that he is really prophesing about a particular event?

[Sea Skimmer]

Nostradamus predictions has been so warped by history and people that there is no point in discussing what they may or may not have predicted.

[Montcalm]

Nostradamus predictions are like the bible codes,its only after something happened that we`re told it was predicted in the book.

[Cap'n Hector]

His writing is so vague that you can make it say anything.

If someone comes up with something before it happens, thats one thing, but so far they haven't.

Predictions have a tendancy to be vague...

[Admiral Valdemar]

I have a book with his quatrains in, most have been figured out or linked to something, others are still cryptic and far flung into the future.

He did predict his own death I believe, but like horoscopes, he has a vague way of predicting stuff.

[Tom_Aurum]

I doubt there was any clear concept of "Good" or "Evil" in the quatraines- hence he described these people as "antichrists" instead of "Satans" or even "Demons". Just three people who very clearly go against "christian" values. Therefore a lot of our founding fathers, such as Benjamin Franklin that could be described as <minor> antichrists. The entire modern Wiccan movement could be considered a collection of minor antichrists.

By these same standards... Napoleon could definitely <not> be considered an antichrist. Altho Hitler could be considered one, the other probable major antichrists may not agree with him, even consider him <evil> from their perspective.

[RedImperator]

As soon as someone uses a Nostradamus quattrain to predict something that hasn't happened with any useful degree of precision, let me know.

[Cap'n Hector]

I was looking over Mike (Nostro's first name was Michael), and he seems to say there will be a future. Good enough for you?

[Admiral Valdemar]

When the true Anti-Christ appears in 7000AD and destroys the world, I'll be happy in knowing "Mike" was right.

[Tom_Aurum]

I am a god of an unknowable EVIL. There are COUNTLESS civilisations that have fallen beneath my horrible might. But in ALL my years I’ve never been so CRUEL to the Universe as to produce an offspring. What unspeakable BEASTS are you?
-Cthulhu on Hello Kitty's parents

Didn't notice that before... want to help me make my series of hello cthulu shirts?

[RedImperator]

I was looking over Mike (Nostro's first name was Michael), and he seems to say there will be a future. Good enough for you?

Well, you got the "vague" part down.

[HemlockGrey]

In that time...ah...children...will become confused...and not know where lieth the things of their fathers....that they put there only last night a little after eight o' clock...

[GrandMasterTerwynn]

WTF? Why Napolean?

Although, you can't trust this. IIRC, Martin Luther was one of the antichrists, and Nero was another. There have been so many antichrists, I seriously think Satan is considering an alteration in his resume.

I have no idea why. From Nostradamus point of view seeing Napoleon leading a large army against several other christian European Kingdoms maybe triggered that responce. I guess people who are studying Nostradamus work can the answer. Trust me it is isn't easy to understand his work.

That's because he was a raving lunatic who wrote some really vague stuff that can be interpreted a hundred different ways.

[UltraViolence83]

I personally liked his "1999" prediction. I remember reading an interpretation of it that made it consistant with the WTC towers crashing down. The author said that since Nostrdamus' time and now a pope changed the calander to 2 years ahead, and Nostradamus wrote about the "seventh month," and Sept- means seven..."The King of Terror descends from the sky" That pretty much sums it up. "The King of the Mongols" could be bin Laden, since Afghanistan in from Central Asia. "Mars reigns before and after." War engulfing the world before and after the event. Seems to make sense. I have a habit of looking for leaders that wear a "blue turban." He said the Thrid Antichrist would wear one.

Of course you can't tell if a prediction will come true until after the event and someone decrypts it in their own interpretation. I liked that one.

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[RedImperator]

I personally liked his "1999" prediction. I remember reading an interpretation of it that made it consistant with the WTC towers crashing down. The author said that since Nostrdamus' time and now a pope changed the calander to 2 years ahead, and Nostradamus wrote about the "seventh month," and Sept- means seven..."The King of Terror descends from the sky" That pretty much sums it up. "The King of the Mongols" could be bin Laden, since Afghanistan in from Central Asia. "Mars reigns before and after." War engulfing the world before and after the event. Seems to make sense. I have a habit of looking for leaders that wear a "blue turban." He said the Thrid Antichrist would wear one.

Of course you can't tell if a prediction will come true until after the event and someone decrypts it in their own interpretation. I liked that one.

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That "Nostradamus" prediction was actually a fraud concocted more than a year prior to Sept. 11--by a college student looking to prove anyone could write a "prediction" to "predict" anything. Nostradamus never wrote anything that could even be twisted to sound like September 11.

[UltraViolence83]

That is very strange, then. I first read that quatrain back in '98-'99, and later I saw a show on the History Channel that was obviously several decades old about his predictions, and they explicitly mentioned that same quatrain. The hoax you're thinking of may be that "Two brothers fall in fire" or whatever one.

[RedImperator]

That is very strange, then. I first read that quatrain back in '98-'99, and later I saw a show on the History Channel that was obviously several decades old about his predictions, and they explicitly mentioned that same quatrain. The hoax you're thinking of may be that "Two brothers fall in fire" or whatever one.

The "New City" one, maybe. Anyhow, it's still bullshit. Before 9/11, everyone was predicting a nuclear attack in September 1999 (or was it '97?). Nobody at all said, "They're going to fly airplanes into the World Trade Center" in Sept. 2001. It's one of the few times Nostradamus mentioned a specific date, and it turned out nothing happened. I don't know who told you anything about the pope changing the calendar by 2 years--the Gregorian calender, when it was adopted, skipped eleven days IIRC. No Pope has ever changed the calendar by 2 years.

[UltraViolence83]

Actually, that one isn't a hoax, either. the New City one also mentions "the sky will burn at 45 degrees." Only city at 45 degrees that's "new" and big is New York. I got that 2 year thing from some site of questionable repute. It doesn't surprise me that that isn't true. Alot of Nostradamus-twisting new age hippies claimed that July 4th, 1999 was going to be the beginning of WWIII. I myself would rather take a Nostradamus prophecy over any others...At least the interpreters usually do a good job with them. Interesting thing: Nostradamus claimed something about liberty prevailing and the eagle flying, and both the US and Nazi Germany took this as saying either was going to win. Silly Nazis.

[RedImperator]

I know the "New City" quattrain wasn't a hoax. The doesn't change the fact that it's two years off, hundreds of miles to the south, and so vague nobody was able to use it to predict September 11 or even come remotely close. And how do we know he meant 45 degrees north? I just checked a map--at roughly 45 degrees west you have Rio de Janireo, Sao Paulo, Buenos Aires, and Brasalia, all of which would be "new" cities to Nostradamus. Everyone thought it would be New York because it's the biggest city in the world with "New" in its name, but you've got four cities that were tiny colonial villages or unsettled wildlands at the time Nostradamus wrote, one of which is larger than New York in total population (Sao Paulo), and one of which actually WOULD have been new in 1999 (Brasalia), all of which are much closer to "forty-five degrees" than New York. And horrific as the fires on 11 Sept. were, when someone says, "The sky will burn", I don't think, "Hmm, that means skyscrapers will be on fire", which is why everyone predicted nukes for all those years.

[Tom_Aurum]

The physics of prophecy are very... very strange. Ever read Dune? Well, anyways, besides the whole Shreodinger and his cat... that gets a little wierd too. But anyways... prophecy. The eventual effect of more than one prophet interacting is both prophets actually destroy each other's timelines with knowledge of the other's. Therefore there is absolutely <no> chance of us getting to know any of his prophecies before they come true... if they come true. The moment we learn of them, they will become false simply because we avert them.